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To: daniel1212
I find your candid statement rare, ...

Maybe you haven't spent enough time with Catholics. Grumbling about bishops or the loose cannons in Vatican City is a major recreational activity. Popes and bishops are mighty thick on the ground in Dante's Inferno.

One of history's great Lay Dominicans, Catherine of Siena, had no reticence in confronting the Pope in Avignon and, in urgent but respectful language, telling him to man up and return to Rome. I do not see this sort of thing as contradicting the idea of the Magisterium or implying any disobedience or disloyalty.

But God raises up men from without the formal magisterium if needed, ...

I wonder if you may be over-concretizing the Magisterium. Catherine of Siena was not a cleric , but she is a "doctor of the Church." With respect to the Magisterium it doesn't get more 'formal' than that.

I got new glasses and they're great! I hope you can get some that are right for you. I don't HAVE headaches, I AM a headache!

335 posted on 10/25/2011 5:08:07 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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To: Mad Dawg
I find your candid statement rare, ...

Maybe you haven't spent enough time with Catholics. Grumbling about bishops or the loose cannons in Vatican City is a major recreational activity. Popes and bishops are mighty thick on the ground in Dante's Inferno.

I meant here, as least as regards your spirit.

One of history's great Lay Dominicans, Catherine of Siena,...

And there is still contention over Savonarola

I wonder if you may be over-concretizing the Magisterium.

Well, i think that is in response to Roman Catholics and their varying ideas of what really is authoritative and promotion of the magisterium in general.

I got new glasses and they're great! I hope you can get some that are right for you. I don't HAVE headaches, I AM a headache!

My new glasses usually come from the dollar store. At 59 i guess glasses should be expected.

392 posted on 10/25/2011 3:49:20 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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