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Sin is a conscious choice; to know what is wrong and to choose to do it. It is abuse of the freedom that God gave us; a rejection of Good and with it Salvation."

There is no specific incantation to reject Salvation, but there are conscious choices that negate it and regain it No one is completely cut of from Salvation, nor confident of it until the moment of their death. Your admission is that "Always" doesn't always mean always, though.

On again, off again salvation.

You can have it.

God promises us in Scripture that we're secure, that He gave us the Holy Spirit as a deposit guaranteeing what is to come.

On again, off again salvation. You can have it. God promises us in Scripture that we're secure, that He gave us the Holy Spirit as a deposit guaranteeing what is to come.

I don't see why it's so hard to understand that if you say a person is saved by grace but "kept" saved by their works (like abstaining from sinning) it is no different than saying a person is saved by their works (being good, not sinning, etc.). Grace means undeserved, unmerited favor and, by definition, whatever is offered by grace cannot then be merited or deserved. Over and over we are told in Scripture that God saves us by his mercy and grace so who are we to come along and shove his gift back in his face insisting that we CAN earn, merit or deserve it?

This has nothing to do with our goodness because, compared to the holiness and righteousness of God, all we can muster up is comparable to filthy rags. We are saved by grace because it HAD to be grace. No amount of good works, deeds, efforts can pay the penalty of sin because God said "blood makes an atonement for the soul" (Lev. 17:11). He made us and he made the rules. It's his way or hell - and that ain't the highway!

I believe the only way one can loose their salvation is only by their own free will AFTER having witnessed the works & power of The Holy Spirit then forever reject it. IOW as the Pharisees in Christ time on earth or as Judas. For others a person has to sometimes question if the persons conversion was sincere too start with because absolutely none of their deeds or words point to it.

I've seen some persons fall who spend years coming back too The Lord. Most cases did not involve a simple I want to go out and be wild type of thinking but rather a hurt in their life they could not handle and turned to things like booze.

Would they be lost in that state? I don't think so but they would be miserable though living through it.

"God promises us in Scripture that we're secure,"

Well that certainly explains your apparent license to be as uncivil and un-Christian as anyone on Free republic. I'm sure that somewhere Jesus is smiling at your behavior.....not!

Just a simple question; did you leave the Catholic Church or were you asked to leave?