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To: Mad Dawg
It seems to me those quotes support my side of the argument. Purgation does not wash away sins but their effect on the sinner and those who have washed may still need parts of them washed again.

But that doesn't make sense either considering Jesus Christ has full authority to even cast out demons as well as too completely heal anyone. Better yet lets look at two persons in the New Testament. It is a pretty much established common belief among all Christians that GOD can not look upon sin and no one Unholy can ever see him. I believe that too be true. I also believe that once a person accepts Christ as Lord and Savior they are no longer Unholy. Not because of their good but rather because of The Holy Spirit dwelling within them and because their salvation was paid in full by Christ.

Stephen stood before the religious leaders of the day and made an obvious spirit filled speech too them. His face it states in The Bible was glowing. As he finishes he looks into the heavens and who does he see? He sees Christ at the right hand of GOD. He is very much physically alive at this point. Stephen no doubt was a spirit filled man but Stephen was also human and was born into the curse. Now then if Jesus Christ blood had not cleansed his sins then how did he see both Christ and GOD?

The young man holding the ones who stoned Stephens garments was a man who years later was to have his own encounter with Jesus Christ. What did Saul see? He saw a blinding light over shadowing him. Paul did not know who it was nor even what it was at first until a voice within the light spoke to him. Did Saul {Paul} see Jesus Christ? No. But why? Because Paul had yet to accept Christ and receive salvation. He was under condemnation of the law and unclean. That was in the works as he had his vision.

Yet another person the Disciple the Lord loved as it is written. What did John see on Patamos when he was given the Revelation of Jesus Christ and told to write? John as well was very much physically alive. What made John clean and without sin before GOD so that he saw what he saw? It was the Blood of Jesus Christ.

Look at Stephens last words. What were they? Father forgive me? No because he knew he was forgiven.

59And as they stoned him, Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” 60And he fell to his knees, shouting, “Lord, don’t charge them with this sin!” And with that, he died.

It would make no sense for Stephen to be sent into purgatory after seeing what he saw. What is it that 100% removes our sin and heals us? It is Jesus Christ.

175 posted on 10/23/2011 5:49:09 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe

Briefly, the argument that SOME do not go to purgatory is compatible with our belief. We do not hold that ALL need purgation after death.


185 posted on 10/24/2011 2:39:03 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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