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To: Mad Dawg
Purgation, by the way, does not purge sin. It purges some of the effects of sin.

In other words, time in the Purgatorial furnace burns up some of the penalty for sin...

Was there any atonement at all when Jesus gave his life on the Cross...Which sins did the death of Christ cover, or eliminate, if any???

103 posted on 10/23/2011 1:24:22 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Iscool
In other words, time in the Purgatorial furnace burns up some of the penalty for sin...

While fire is the most common and indeed the Pauline image, it is not necessarily the only image for purgation. "Penalty" in the sense that a sprained muscle is the "penalty" for walking or running incorrectly, yes. Not all "effects"are "penalties" in the forensic sense. If I spend what I do not have, my indebtedness is an effect or consequence. Is it a penalty?

Which sins did the death of Christ cover, or eliminate, if any???

Every one.

If one defines what we teach differently from the way we define it, one will find contradictions that do not follow from our teaching. We say, "For freedom Christ has set you free," while we think that freedom and responsibility are essentially related.

110 posted on 10/23/2011 2:41:07 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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To: Iscool
MD: Purgation, by the way, does not purge sin. It purges some of the effects of sin.

Iscool:In other words, time in the Purgatorial furnace burns up some of the penalty for sin...

Was there any atonement at all when Jesus gave his life on the Cross...Which sins did the death of Christ cover, or eliminate, if any???

Actually, the question that I have is rather *Which sins did the death of Christ NOT cover or eliminate that I have to pay for myself*?

115 posted on 10/23/2011 2:49:10 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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