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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
please read Isaiah 53

Read it hundreds of times. It is not about Jesus. There are several mistranslations of the Hebrew that make it "appear" to be about him but it is not.

types and shadows pointing to the One Sacrifice

That cant be. Again...G-d forbids human sacrifice. Look what G-d says about it.

(Israel) Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them (the pagans), after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou inquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise. Thou shalt not do so unto the Eternal thy God: for every abomination to the Eternal, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods. [Deuteronomy 12:30-31]

God calls Human sacrifice something that He hates, and an abomination to Him

In Jeremiah, God tells us that Human sacrifice is so horrible a concept to Him, that it did not even come into His mind!

Jeremiah 19:4 Because they have forsaken me, and have estranged this place, and have burned incense in it unto other gods, whom neither they nor their fathers have known, nor the kings of Judah, and have filled this place with the blood of innocents; They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind:

Same thing in Psalm 106 and in Ezekiel 16

And yet we are to then turn around and believe that God changed His mind, and required human sacrifice, and then it was the sacrifice of His own human son that God wanted? G-d hates it, it is an abomnination, so horrific it never enters His mind.... but then G-d copies the pagans? Acts like a pagan? After telling the Jews to stay away from pagan practices, and pagan beliefs, God then changes His mind and says, "Okay, now go ahead and believe in a human sacrifice, just as these very pagans believe?" NO! Animal sacrifice was not a shadow or type. Read Ezekiel 44. The sacrifical system is returning. Why? If Jesus was THE sacrifice. Answer: He wasnt a sacrifice..G-d hates human sacrifice.

H/T Reb Federow

45 posted on 10/19/2011 10:22:00 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: blasater1960; one Lord one faith one baptism
That cant be. Again...G-d forbids human sacrifice. Look what G-d says about it

Jer 3:8 I saw that even though backsliding Isra’el had committed adultery, so that I had sent her away and given her a divorce document, unfaithful Y’hudah her sister was not moved to fear - instead she too went and prostituted herself.(BUT was NOT given a certificate of divorce because Judah remained in covenant)

NT worshipers do not understand because they do not study or practice Torah. They have no clue what it means to be our of covenant because they have never entered in to the covenant due to the lies of the fathers which their hearts refuse to see. Christian doctrine is the reason Paul has such a bad reputation among the house of Judah. But who was Paul really talking to? Pagans or lost sheep who were out of covenant?

Rm 7:1 Surely you know, brothers - for I am speaking to those who understand Torah - that the Torah has authority over a person only so long as he lives? 2 For example, a married woman is bound by Torah to her husband while he is alive; but if the husband dies, she is released from the part of the Torah that deals with husbands. 3 Therefore, while the husband is alive, she will be called an adulteress if she marries another man; but if the husband dies, she is free from that part of the Torah; so that if she marries another man, she is not an adulteress.

Paul wasn't talking to pagan goyim, he was talking to his out of covenant Jewish brethren. Period. Jewish Brethren who were not allowed past the 3 ft wall of separation because they were well aware of the Levitical laws of divorce. Pagans could have cared less about a Jewish Messiah, let alone want to join themselves to HIM.

Jer 16:19 "ADONAI, my strength, my fortress, my refuge in time of trouble, the nations will come to you from the ends of the earth, saying, “Our ancestors inherited nothing but lies, futile idols, completely useless.”

NT worshipers delude themselves into believing religious leaders never lie about the origins of their religious doctrine(that has no foundation in Torah) & therefore they have no reason to study or practice the instructions & commands in Torah.

52 posted on 10/19/2011 11:40:17 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: blasater1960

God hates human sacrifices because the humans being sacrificed were sinful beings like the ones doing the killing. Jesus Christ, being the spotless lamb, was worthy to be an atoning sacrifice.


71 posted on 10/20/2011 5:14:57 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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