I know of no Christians who claim that Christ came from gentiles.... rather that Jesus came from the lineage of the Jews...He was a Jew.
I am trying to determine which Messianic Jews Teachings you are referencing in your posts..... for there are many branches which have shot off from their intial beginnings. Your teachings center primarily as referencing specifical y Jesus as Yah'shua with a strong attachment to the Torah as central to your beliefs. There are several as this with in the Messianic Jews arena....though I understand you do not claim yourself as one...but the teachings you're given are very much so.
Neither do I. What I said is Christian religious doctrine teaches that Yah’shua Messiah came to form a new church(ecclesia) of put of covenant pagan gentiles who only have to profess to believe He is the Messiah and are not subject to that which He is. They teach that which He is, Torah, is only for Jews there by keeping their flock out of Covenant.
I am trying to determine which Messianic Jews Teachings you are referencing
I am not referencing any Messianic Jewish teaching whatsoever. The Messianic have their own religious doctrinal issues I care not to join in and being labeled a member of any religious denomination is not a requirement for salvation. Now don't get me wrong, I do miss the weekly in person fellowship however I am completely at peace until a congregation is formed in my area that doesn't feel the need for man made religious doctrine.
Your teachings center primarily as referencing specifically Jesus as Yah’shua with a strong attachment to the Torah as central to your beliefs
No, it is not my teaching that references the strong attachment of Yah’shua to the Torah as being central. It comes straight out of Scripture from YHVH Himself. The most prominent example is John 1:1-3,14 Yah’shua was & is the Torah, he has been since the beginning and will remain so to the end.
YHVH selected the Hebrew Abraham for a reason. Hebrew means crossed over. Abraham was an out of Covenant gentile when YHVH chose him & called him out. Why was Abraham's seed selected for the Covenant of the Promise Paul speaks of in Romans? Genesis 26:5; Romans 4:3-13 And thus Scriptural proof that pagan gentiles welcome from the beginning.
Torah was only written down at Mt Sinai, but it had always been from the beginning. It was only due to the fact that YHVH’s children kept forgetting & ignoring the spoken that it even had to be written down in the 1st place. Thus from Mt Sinai forward to the end of the age, which we are still in to this day, there would no excuse not to know the instructions in order to keep in Covenant. Especially in today's times when Bibles are so ready available & affordable.