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To: HarleyD; narses; Absolutely Nobama; Elendur; it_ürür; Bockscar; Mary Kochan; Bed_Zeppelin; ...
Just a small point of clarification in different salvation structures.

1) Catholics (and some Protestants) believe that once a person is saved they must maintain that gift given to them. There is a possibility that you could lose your salvation.

2) The "Once Saved Always Saved" Protestants look at salvation as a fix point of salvation. After that people are "free to choice" which way they want to go.

3) The "Perseverance of the Saints" Protestants believe that God saved you and God will keep you. And when you go off the beaten path, God will chasten and hasten you to either help you find your way or will call you home. But you will never be lost from the love of God who saved you in your most vilest state.

The first two views are based upon the egregious heresy of "free will"; one is capable of making correct and good choices. The last view is based upon an understanding that man with his sinful nature is wholly reliant upon the grace and mercy of God to guide us through this life.

It is an error and sin to think that man is ever capable of willfully choosing anything pleasing of God.

175 posted on 10/17/2011 5:24:01 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD
"The first two views are based upon the egregious heresy of "free will"; one is capable of making correct and good choices. The last view is based upon an understanding that man with his sinful nature is wholly reliant upon the grace and mercy of God to guide us through this life.

It is an error and sin to think that man is ever capable of willfully choosing anything pleasing of God.

Just terrific stuff here, Harley. Thanks.

176 posted on 10/18/2011 10:40:35 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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