hey dont believe that works do anything for your salvation, only that if you dont have any works you dont have any faith and arent a true believer
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Fail. That isn’t what they believe. BTW, they don’t call it communion, they call it sacrament and it uses “Wonderbread” and water. Also LDS ‘sacrament’ is only a renewal of their Baptism covenants where they promise not to sin all week and ‘keep their covenants’.
Regarding works, complete fail there, LDS believe ‘salvation’ (resurrection) is grace only, but ‘exaltation’ or making it back to the presence of the Father (Heaven and for them godhood) is based upon works. “grace” MAY kick in after they have done all they can do themselves. In essence they make Jesus a loan shark they have to pay back with their good works. The only salvation by grace is resurrection.
This is just another way the LDS twist words and definitions to make them ‘sound’ Christian. The LDS not only reject the the doctrine of Salvation by grace, they mock it.
Here are some quotes from LDS leaders....
“One of the most fallacious doctrines originated by Satan and propounded by man is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; that belief in Jesus Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation,” (Miracle of Forgiveness, Spencer W. Kimball, p. 206).
“There will be a General Salvation for all in the sense in which that term is generally used, but salvation, meaning resurrection, is not exaltation” (Stephen L. Richards, Contributions of Joseph Smith, LDS tract, p.5).
“All men are saved by grace alone without any act on their part, meaning they are resurrected” (Bruce McConkie, What Mormons Think of Christ”, LDS tract, p.28).
Spencer W. Kimball, the twelfth president of the LDS Church, wrote:
Immortality has been accomplished by the Saviors sacrifice. Eternal life hangs in the balance awaiting the works of men.
This progress toward eternal life is a matter of achieving perfection. Living all the commandments guarantees total forgiveness of sins and assures one of exaltation through that perfection which comes by complying with the formula the Lord gave us. In his Sermon on the Mount he made the command to all men: Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. (Matt. 5:48) Being perfect means to triumph over sin. This is a mandate from the Lord. He is just and wise and kind. He would never require anything from his children which was not for their benefit and which was not attainable. Perfection therefore is an achievable goal.. Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, (Salt Lake City: Bookcraft Inc., 1972), Ibid., 208-209.
From the Book of Mormon 2 Nephi 25:23 - “For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.”
Marion G Romney wrote” “The truth is that we are saved by grace only after all we ourselves can do. (See 2 Ne. 25:23.) There will be no government dole which can get us through the pearly gates. Nor will anybody go into the celestial kingdom who wants to go there on the works of someone else. Every man must go through on his own merits. We might just as well learn this here and now.
“Many people think they need only confess that Jesus is the Christ and then they are saved by grace alone. We cannot be saved by grace alone, ‘for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.’” - James E. Faust “The Atonement: Our Greatest Hope,” Ensign, Nov. 2001, p. 18
Harrold B. Lee - The Savior’s blood, His atonement, will save us, but only after we have done all we can to save ourselves by keeping His commandments.
Mormons teach that salvation (exaltation) comes through faith in Christ plus baptism plus works, i.e., we must add to the work of Christ. In the Bible ‘salvation’ means deliverance from the consequence (eternal separation from God) of our sin. Mormon leaders have redefined the word ‘salvation’ to have a two-fold meaning: a) forgiveness of sins and b) universal resurrection:
“There will be a General Salvation for all in the sense in which that term is generally used, but salvation, meaning resurrection, is not exaltation” (Stephen L. Richards, Contributions of Joseph Smith, LDS tract, p.5).
“All men are saved by grace alone without any act on their part, meaning they are resurrected” (Bruce McConkie, What Mormons Think of Christ”, LDS tract, p.28).
A plan of salvation was needed for the people of earth so Jesus offered a plan to the Father and Satan offered a plan to the father but Jesus’ plan was accepted. In effect the Devil wanted to be the Savior of all Mankind and to “deny men their agency and to dethrone god,” (Mormon Doctrine, p. 193; Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 8).
Jesus’ sacrifice was not able to cleanse us from all our sins, (murder and repeated adultery are exceptions), (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, 1856, p. 247).
Good works are necessary for salvation (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 92).
LDS apostle Boyd K. Packer says this about Christ sacrifice to us (Christ is the ‘benefactor’)... Then, said the benefactor, you will pay the debt to me and I will set the terms. It will not be easy, but it will be possible. I will provide a way. You need not go to prison. (in Conference Report, Apr. 1977, pp. 7980; or Ensign, May 1977, pp. 5455). Thus Christ extended a loan to cover our sins but we have to ‘pay him back’.
I can provide even more quotes from LDS sources regarding these doctrines.
JA even the LDS on FR often make light of “grace only” and once saved always saved and always argue with the book of James, out of context of course, about the importance of works in saving the soul.
What you state is a Christian belief not a Mormon one, indeed the opposite as stated by the LDS here THEMSELVES...