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"I understand “why” catholics belief as they do, even if I see that they are in error as the dialogue continues, it’s revealing much about the catholic faith and where they are coming from and why."

I would advise you to take Gamaliel’s Counsel. Heresies have come and gone but Catholicism has been around for nearly 2000 years. If we are wrong nothing we can do will cause us to prevail. If we are right nothing you can do will cause us to fail or fade away.

"So in the present case, I say to you, stay away from these men and let them alone, for if this plan or action is of men, it will be overthrown; but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them; or else you may even be found fighting against God.” - Acts 5:38-39

The "Big Flock Longevity Theory" raises its head to proclaim pre-eminence. How could ONE BILLION people be wrong? And how could a 2000 year old institution of traditions and doctrines of men be incorrect? Pulling on their "We're Number One" sponge big hands, they rally to "We Are The Champions" and high-five their accomplishments. THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS. THEIR WORKS. THEIR SACRAMENTS. THEIR PENANCES. THEIR PARTICIPATION IN THE MASS. THEIR PRAYERS TO THE SAINTS, AND MARY, FOR INTERVENTION. THEIR ROSARIES. THEIR EVENTUAL SALVATION. THEIR INFALLIBLE LEADERS. THEIR ESTABLISHING THE KINGDOM OF GOD ON EARTH, SO CHRIST CAN RETURN. THEIR BEING SPIRITUAL ISRAEL.

Oh, the RCC WILL prevail, as long as the prince of the power of the air prevails in this present evil world. But it will be short lived, in the time schedule of eternity. Rev. 17 assures us of that.

Well I do prefer to take my counsel from the Lord as our history together has shown He has never steered me wrong.

However the Lord did speak that there would be, as there was in His time, false teachers “within” the church itself and why He spoke of not relying on man...rather He encouraged us to search ‘the scriptures’ to see if what is being stated is of God or not...for there are indeed many deceivers in our world today, just as there was at that time.

Interesting that you speak of “we” which would suppose you’re speaking as the collective within the catholic faith and it’s leadership. Whereas it has seemed clear to me to me ‘we’ will ‘each’ be accountable to Christ as individuals for what we believe...right or wrong. Although there is warning to teachers about what they do teach, which seems to place a heavier accountability on them for what they instruct. Therefore they had better have Christ’s assurance that what they are teaching is the truth.

As for catholicism being around for 2000 years, that really doesn’t attest to if they are right or wrong...as Jesus did warn us the tares and the wheat will grow amidst one another....yet one or the other surely is wrong...both cannot be right...but they both will be until that day.

You see deceivers did go out “from among them”, or the “we” in that day...and they do so today as well....so they have “prevailed” until this time.