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To: Gamecock; jesus4life; Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg
If we believe in CHRIST as the son of GOD, who killed no one,

Did someone forget Sodom and Gomorrah? The first born of Egypt? How about the inhabitants of Canaan?

It never ceases to amaze me how little people fail to connect the God of the Old Testament with the God of the New. They have little understanding of scripture and the exact character and nature of God. It is an entirely made up god. One might as well put up a golden calf and say, "Here is your god."

BTW-Correctly me if I'm wrong but the Lord Jesus never called Mary his "mother". I believe he always referred to her as "woman".

18 posted on 10/03/2011 12:12:55 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; Gamecock; jesus4life; Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg
It never ceases to amaze me how little people fail to connect the God of the Old Testament with the God of the New.

FWIW, it's because the Marian Cult has successfully convinced people the only way to think about Jesus Christ is as the little baby on Mary's lap, or on the Cross. They never think of his pre-incarnate form, or even the Christ who threw the money changers out of the Temple.

19 posted on 10/03/2011 12:33:14 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: HarleyD

Read the word with the heart of christ.
Disasters;
The Flood ( Noah):God repented and made the covenant ( the rainbow) and promised to never kill the whole earth by water again.
Sodom and Gemorrah, Babel, Pharaoh and Moses, etc....all GOD killing, repenting, re-creating through promises of giving people multitudes of children and so on......
God can kill becasuse He can re-create. We can not. Also, when GOD did kill in the Old testament, it was for us to learn the lessons of our sins for not listening to him. The cries of many prophets changed that for us ( David, Job, Moses, and more...). Say, Hello, to Jesus physcial entrance to earth through door number 1 ladies and gents.
Jesus in the NT died for our sins. In this way we do not suffer as we did in the OT for sinning. We have the chance to learn from our sins, learn what to change, and move on through his grace and mercy.
Many want to kill! To even want to do that or accept it, only shows what is actually in a person’s heart. Also, it shows the things they are still struggling with to even want to kill or accept killing. It’s against the commandments, against what Jesus said for us to, like, turn the other cheek.
Saul ( paul ) was known for a Samurai chop, drag a man on a pony in his day. If it was okay, Jesus would have changed his teaching after knocking him off the horse, and told him, “ Tally hooo, just kill them all that get in your way!!”. Remember Paul as Saul was keen on killing.
Also Jesus would never have told Peter to put that sword away, he would have just told him to keep chopping that soldiers ear off, then the leg, head, and then in half. But, he didnt.
Look inside yourself.
Jesus on this earth in the physical, never killed.


55 posted on 10/03/2011 9:35:48 PM PDT by jesus4life
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To: HarleyD

This may come as a double post. In the name of Jesus I answered this, but dont see it. But, I see the other posts.

JESUS in the flesh killed no one.
In the OT, GOD killed, repented, and promised prophets, women, and messengers multitudes of children for their lineage after He used them for acts of killing.
Example: The Flood (Noah); God repented and sealed his repentance with the convenant ( the rainbow) to promise that He would never kill the whole earth by water. from there giving Noah clean and unclean of all things to inhabit the earth again.
Sodom and Gemorrah, Bable, and more.....GOD repented and gave promises and more children to those killed. Remember that GOD can kill and also re-create. We can not.
The prophets and messengers in different times cried to God to not kill and send someone to speak on his level for us ( Job asked for a mediator, David forever asking for forgiveness for us in Psalms, Isaiah, Daniel, and more....).
And now ladies and GENTLEmen, say, “ hello to JESUS CHRIST!!”. The mediator, author, and guide of our faith; our lord and saviour.
Without Jesus we are dying straight from our sins.
Jesus life, death, defeat over the adversary, then ascension was all for us to have grace from the wages of our sins; which is death.
Read the bible with the love of christ. Not with the lust of the flesh; which wants to judge, hate, seperate, and put down. Trust in the LORD. He will definitely do all that ( judging, seperating, killing, etc...) in his time. He will. Not us.
I am definitely into and truly understand the Jesus of turning over tables, and rebuking the Pharisees. But he did that knowing humans’ hearts and intentions. Can any of you honestly say you know another persons’ true intentions and feelings 100% like JESUS?? If any of you say YES, then you are a liar.
Because we dont know a persons’ heart, we can’t judge. This is why Jesus says to not judge. Our point on this earth is to love one another ( enemies, friends, strangers,etc...) as Jesus instructed. Anything else is false gospel.
To love someone doesnt mean you do what they do.
Loving them is to talk to them the way you would want to be talked to. So, if you want to tell someone to stop being something that is against GOD, then you must live it first. Because if you can’t live it, then you are not an example, and when you fall short, you now become a hypocrite. Which only makes that sinful person now feel better about sinning.


61 posted on 10/03/2011 9:39:11 PM PDT by jesus4life
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