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To: editor-surveyor

Love this response. I especially love the use of the word YESHUA as this is the vessel on earth in english named Jesus. That vessel came out of Mary, that was the only point. All languages GOD understands as HE created all of them, whether it’s Yehweh, Abba, Elohim, Theos, etc... He knows His name. We are the ones that are praying to get closer to Him, and not Him. He is not praying to get closer to us. He is just giving us orders to obey. THe more we obey, the more we are allowed to see more of Him. He leaves us stagnant in faith or just in wonder the more we chase our egos, desires, and any other sin

Mary!! Her obedience that I was mentioning is the fact that she was humble to the angel. She hesitated, but believed on the miraculous. Many of us dont even do that. We sin more and more all the time and even dragged back to church. And we are just doing that trying to get ourselves out of sin ( individually). This is not miraculous. Cleaning ourselves is mandatory, a basic in faith, a must in faith, and we have problems with that.

For example Sarah or Sarai( abraham’s wife), who spoke with GOD. She actually laughed at HIM when He said He would give her a miraculous baby in her age. Laughing at GOD is not something to be inspired by. I hope you get now where I am going from in faith.

So many people go over the top when Mary is mentioned. They dont look deeply at the context. I didnt say she was the mother of GOD. I said she is REVERED ( meaning its traditionally or commonly said) as the mother of GOD.
For those that say she is or those that believe she was just the mother of the baby Jesus. It doesnt matter. I was just saying her obedience to the miraculous is something to be copied. Just like her, Mary Magadalene, and John were at the cross; while the other disciples were not. That’s all. It’s not a worship of them or giving them some special title, it’s just an obedience that should be copied as an inspiration in parts of our faith walk. We are all members of the ONE BODY.
Examples:
Just like Moses tolerance
Aaron’s intelligence
John’s heart ( the heart of Jesus)
Peter’s persistance
David’s courage
and so many other qualities one can look at and be inspired by; of course all given to them by GOD. The prophets, messengers, saints, and believers ( even nature and some non-believers qualities), are left here by GOD for us to learn from in our faith as well as them learning from us. We are all supposed to inspire each believer in Christ. This is edification. Not a false title or worship.
Being everything to everyone is the beginning of being beguiling as a snake and as innocent as a dove in order to plant a seed in faith.
Christ wasnt the same to all people. He rebuked some, healed some, touched others, was touched, told some who He was, didnt tell some who He was, washed the feet of some, cried with some, yelled with some, etc.... there are many ways to plant a seed. Assuming or putting down people is not one of them unless you are sure the person is going against the WORD.
BUT OF COURSE!! Christ is the way, with eyes on the FATHER only. Believers actions should edify us to want to worship GOD more. It’s not a worship of human.

Passages:

Mary obedience and humility
Luke 1:26-45
26 In the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a town in Galilee called Nazareth,
27 to a virgin betrothed to a man named Joseph, of the House of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary.
28 He went in and said to her, ‘Rejoice, you who enjoy God’s favour! The Lord is with you.’
29 She was deeply disturbed by these words and asked herself what this greeting could mean,
30 but the angel said to her, ‘Mary, do not be afraid; you have won God’s favour.
31 Look! You are to conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you must name him Jesus.
32 He will be great and will be called Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his ancestor David;
33 he will rule over the House of Jacob for ever and his reign will have no end.’
34 Mary said to the angel, ‘But how can this come about, since I have no knowledge of man?’
35 The angel answered, ‘The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will cover you with its shadow. And so the child will be holy and will be called Son of God.
36 And I tell you this too: your cousin Elizabeth also, in her old age, has conceived a son, and she whom people called barren is now in her sixth month,
37 for nothing is impossible to God.’
38 Mary said, ‘You see before you the Lord’s servant, let it happen to me as you have said.’ And the angel left her.
39 Mary set out at that time and went as quickly as she could into the hill country to a town in Judah.
40 She went into Zechariah’s house and greeted Elizabeth.
41 Now it happened that as soon as Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the child leapt in her womb and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.
42 She gave a loud cry and said, ‘Of all women you are the most blessed, and blessed is the fruit of your womb.
43 Why should I be honoured with a visit from the mother of my Lord?
44 Look, the moment your greeting reached my ears, the child in my womb leapt for joy.
45 Yes, blessed is she who believed that the promise made her by the Lord would be fulfilled.’

Sarah’s disobedience
Genesis 18:10-15
10 Then his guest said, ‘I shall come back to you next year, and then your wife Sarah will have a son.’ Sarah was listening at the entrance of the tent behind him.
11 Now Abraham and Sarah were old, well on in years, and Sarah had ceased to have her monthly periods.
12 So Sarah laughed to herself, thinking, ‘Now that I am past the age of childbearing, and my husband is an old man, is pleasure to come my way again?’
13 But Yahweh asked Abraham, ‘Why did Sarah laugh and say, “Am I really going to have a child now that I am old?”
14 Nothing is impossible for Yahweh. I shall come back to you at the same time next year and Sarah will have a son.’
15 Sarah said, ‘I did not laugh,’ lying because she was afraid. But he replied, ‘Oh yes, you did laugh.’

No worship of any human or angels
Colossians 2:18-19
18 Do not be cheated of your prize by anyone who chooses to grovel to angels and worship them, pinning every hope on visions received, vainly puffed up by a human way of thinking;
19 such a person has no connection to the Head, by which the whole body, given all that it needs and held together by its joints and sinews, grows with the growth given by God.

Acts 14:8-18
Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, addressed them, ‘Rulers of the people, and elders!
9 If you are questioning us today about an act of kindness to a cripple and asking us how he was healed,
10 you must know, all of you, and the whole people of Israel, that it is by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, and God raised from the dead, by this name and by no other that this man stands before you cured.
11 This is the stone which you, the builders, rejected but which has become the cornerstone. Only in him is there salvation;
12 for of all the names in the world given to men, this is the only one by which we can be saved.’
13 They were astonished at the fearlessness shown by Peter and John, considering that they were uneducated laymen; and they recognised them as associates of Jesus;
14 but when they saw the man who had been cured standing by their side, they could find no answer.
15 So they ordered them to stand outside while the Sanhedrin had a private discussion.
16 ‘What are we going to do with these men?’ they asked. ‘It is obvious to everybody in Jerusalem that a notable miracle has been worked through them, and we cannot deny it.
17 But to stop the whole thing spreading any further among the people, let us threaten them against ever speaking to anyone in this name again.’
18 So they called them in and gave them a warning on no account to make statements or to teach in the name of Jesus.

Edify and be inspired by believers and non-believers. All praise to JESUS with worship of the Father. Be all things to others

1 CORINTHIANS 1:25-31
25 God’s folly is wiser than human wisdom, and God’s weakness is stronger than human strength.
26 Consider, brothers, how you were called; not many of you are wise by human standards, not many influential, not many from noble families.
27 No, God chose those who by human standards are fools to shame the wise; he chose those who by human standards are weak to shame the strong,
28 those who by human standards are common and contemptible — indeed those who count for nothing — to reduce to nothing all those that do count for something,
29 so that no human being might feel boastful before God.
30 It is by him that you exist in Christ Jesus, who for us was made wisdom from God, and saving justice and holiness and redemption.
31 As scripture says: If anyone wants to boast, let him boast of the Lord.

1 CORINTHIANS 2;5
5 so that your faith should depend not on human wisdom but on the power of God.

ROMANS 14:15-23
15 And indeed, if through any kind of food you are causing offence to a brother, then you are no longer being guided by love. You are not to let the food that you eat cause the ruin of anyone for whom Christ died.
16 A privilege of yours must not be allowed to give rise to harmful talk;
17 for it is not eating and drinking that make the kingdom of God, but the saving justice, the peace and the joy brought by the Holy Spirit.
18 It is the person who serves Christ in these things that will be approved by God and respected by everyone.
19 So then, let us be always seeking the ways which lead to peace and the ways in which we can support one another.
20 Do not wreck God’s work for the sake of food. Certainly all foods are clean; but all the same, any kind can be evil for someone to whom it is an offence to eat it.
21 It is best to abstain from eating any meat, or drinking any wine, or from any other activity which might cause a brother to fall away, or to be scandalised, or to weaken.
22 Within yourself, before God, hold on to what you already believe. Blessed is the person whose principles do not condemn his practice.
23 But anyone who eats with qualms of conscience is condemned, because this eating does not spring from faith — and every action which does not spring from faith is sin.

ROMANS 15:1-13
It is for us who are strong to bear with the susceptibilities of the weaker ones, and not please ourselves.
2 Each of us must consider his neighbour’s good, so that we support one another.
3 Christ did not indulge his own feelings, either; indeed, as scripture says: The insults of those who insult you fall on me.
4 And all these things which were written so long ago were written so that we, learning perseverance and the encouragement which the scriptures give, should have hope.
5 Now the God of perseverance and encouragement give you all the same purpose, following the example of Christ Jesus,
6 so that you may together give glory to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ with one heart.
7 Accept one another, then, for the sake of God’s glory, as Christ accepted you.
8 I tell you that Christ’s work was to serve the circumcised, fulfilling the truthfulness of God by carrying out the promises made to the fathers,
9 and his work was also for the gentiles, so that they should give glory to God for his faithful love; as scripture says: For this I shall praise you among the nations and sing praise to your name.
10 And in another place it says: Nations, rejoice, with his people,
11 and in another place again: Praise the Lord, all nations, extol him, all peoples.
12 And in Isaiah, it says: The root of Jesse will appear, he who rises up to rule the nations, and in him the nations will put their hope.
13 May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in your faith, so that in the power of the Holy Spirit you may be rich in hope.

EPHESIANS 4:11-16
11 And to some, his ‘gift’ was that they should be apostles; to some prophets; to some, evangelists; to some, pastors and teachers;
12 to knit God’s holy people together for the work of service to build up the Body of Christ,
13 until we all reach unity in faith and knowledge of the Son of God and form the perfect Man, fully mature with the fullness of Christ himself.
14 Then we shall no longer be children, or tossed one way and another, and carried hither and thither by every new gust of teaching, at the mercy of all the tricks people play and their unscrupulousness in deliberate deception.
15 If we live by the truth and in love, we shall grow completely into Christ, who is the head
16 by whom the whole Body is fitted and joined together, every joint adding its own strength, for each individual part to work according to its function. So the body grows until it has built itself up in love.

Wise as a serpent and innocent as doves
Matthew 10:16
16 Look, I am sending you out like sheep among wolves; so be cunning as snakes and yet innocent as doves.

Jesus washing the feet
John 5:1-17
1 After this there was a Jewish festival, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
2 Now in Jerusalem next to the Sheep Pool there is a pool called Bethesda in Hebrew, which has five porticos;
3 and under these were crowds of sick people, blind, lame, paralysed.
4 for at intervals the angel of the Lord came down into the pool, and the water was disturbed, and the first person to enter the water after this disturbance was cured of any ailment he suffered from.
5 One man there had an illness which had lasted thirty-eight years,
6 and when Jesus saw him lying there and knew he had been in that condition for a long time, he said, ‘Do you want to be well again?’
7 ‘Sir,’ replied the sick man, ‘I have no one to put me into the pool when the water is disturbed; and while I am still on the way, someone else gets down there before me.’
8 Jesus said, ‘Get up, pick up your sleeping-mat and walk around.’
9 The man was cured at once, and he picked up his mat and started to walk around. Now that day happened to be the Sabbath,
10 so the Jews said to the man who had been cured, ‘It is the Sabbath; you are not allowed to carry your sleeping-mat.’
11 He replied, ‘But the man who cured me told me, “Pick up your sleeping-mat and walk around.” ‘
12 They asked, ‘Who is the man who said to you, “Pick up your sleeping-mat and walk around”? ‘
13 The man had no idea who it was, since Jesus had disappeared, as the place was crowded.
14 After a while Jesus met him in the Temple and said, ‘Now you are well again, do not sin any more, or something worse may happen to you.’
15 The man went back and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had cured him.
16 It was because he did things like this on the Sabbath that the Jews began to harass Jesus.
17 His answer to them was, ‘My Father still goes on working, and I am at work, too.’

Jesus rebuking and exopsing Satan
Matthew 16:23
23 But he turned and said to Peter, ‘Get behind me, Satan! You are an obstacle in my path, because you are thinking not as God thinks but as human beings do.’

Matthew 16:1-4
1 The Pharisees and Sadducees came, and to put him to the test they asked if he would show them a sign from heaven.
2 He replied, ‘In the evening you say, “It will be fine; there’s a red sky,”
3 and in the morning, “Stormy weather today; the sky is red and overcast.” You know how to read the face of the sky, but you cannot read the signs of the times.
4 It is an evil and unfaithful generation asking for a sign, and the only sign it will be given is the sign of Jonah.’ And he left them and went off.
Jesus rebuking with healing
Matthew 16:18
18 And when Jesus rebuked it the devil came out of the boy, who was cured from that moment.

Mark 3:1-5
Another time he went into the synagogue, and there was a man present whose hand was withered.
2 And they were watching him to see if he would cure him on the Sabbath day, hoping for something to charge him with.
3 He said to the man with the withered hand, ‘Get up and stand in the middle!’
4 Then he said to them, ‘Is it permitted on the Sabbath day to do good, or to do evil; to save life, or to kill?’ But they said nothing.
5 Then he looked angrily round at them, grieved to find them so obstinate, and said to the man, ‘Stretch out your hand.’ He stretched it out and his hand was restored.

Jesus being touched and healing and complimenting
Luke 8:40-48
40 On his return Jesus was welcomed by the crowd, for they were all there waiting for him.
41 And suddenly there came a man named Jairus, who was president of the synagogue. He fell at Jesus’ feet and pleaded with him to come to his house,
42 because he had an only daughter about twelve years old, who was dying. And the crowds were almost stifling Jesus as he went.
43 Now there was a woman suffering from a haemorrhage for the past twelve years, whom no one had been able to cure.
44 She came up behind him and touched the fringe of his cloak; and the haemorrhage stopped at that very moment.
45 Jesus said, ‘Who was it that touched me?’ When they all denied it, Peter said, ‘Master, it is the crowds round you, pushing.’
46 But Jesus said, ‘Somebody touched me. I felt that power had gone out from me.’
47 Seeing herself discovered, the woman came forward trembling, and falling at his feet explained in front of all the people why she had touched him and how she had been cured at that very moment.
48 ‘My daughter,’ he said, ‘your faith has saved you; go in peace.’

Jesus spiritual family ( mother, brother, and sister. Read carefully).
Mark 3:31-35
31 Now his mother and his brothers arrived and, standing outside, sent in a message asking for him.
32 A crowd was sitting round him at the time the message was passed to him, ‘Look, your mother and brothers and sisters are outside asking for you.’
33 He replied, ‘Who are my mother and my brothers?’
34 And looking at those sitting in a circle round him, he said, ‘Here are my mother and my brothers.
35 Anyone who does the will of God, that person is my brother and sister and mother.’

People may have different ways to worship but know Jesus is the way the, the truth, and the life/light. Still they are family

Mark 9:38-41
38 John said to him, ‘Master, we saw someone who is not one of us driving out devils in your name, and because he was not one of us we tried to stop him.’
39 But Jesus said, ‘You must not stop him; no one who works a miracle in my name could soon afterwards speak evil of me.
40 Anyone who is not against us is for us.
41 ‘If anyone gives you a cup of water to drink because you belong to Christ, then in truth I tell you, he will most certainly not lose his reward.


174 posted on 10/04/2011 9:39:34 PM PDT by jesus4life
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To: jesus4life

Great scripture!!


189 posted on 10/04/2011 10:41:47 PM PDT by johngrace (1 John 4!- which is also declared at every sunday mass.)
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