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To: mas cerveza por favor
My bible says to serve God first and foremost. Nationalism is a service to man and should therefore receive lower priority than service to God.

That's funny, considering that Catholicism supports every nationalism on earth other than Jewish nationalism. The Irish, the Poles, the Spanish, the French . . . all have their own "holy nationalism." In theory chr*stianity has replaced the nation of Israel with the chr*stian church. In fact it replaced Israel with every chr*stian nation on earth. Now everybody tells themselves they are the "special chosen holy nation" . . . including the American "patriot movement."

Normally people who are nationalist are only that way toward their own nation.

Yes. They're called "henotheists."

Where in the Old Testament does it say the non-Jews are supposed to become Jewish nationalists?

The Bible wasn't written to non-Jews. The translation of the Bible out of Hebrew into another language is actually one of the things mourned on the fast day of `Asarah BeTevet. It is Israel's duty to teach the nations the things of G-d . . . something they were unable to carry out for so long (because of the dire punishments involved) that now unfortunately most of them have forgotten about this duty.

Of course in the New Testament it says just the opposite.

Well, duh. The "new testament" (like the koran, the book of mormon, etc.) was written to discredit the Holy Torah. Since the definitive Revelation was at Mt. Sinai, please forgive me if I have no interest in the claims of false religions.

14 posted on 09/23/2011 8:14:53 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Theist religion and nationalism are entirely distinct. Nationalism normally results from the mutual bonds of loyalty shared among members of the same nation and is consistent with Natural Law. By contrast, religion consists of the bonds between man and God according to the requirements of Supernatural Law. Religion and nationalism may coexist, but the latter must properly give way before the former.

This combination of supernatural religion and natural nationalism is the healthy result of strong Catholic faith lived out in a majority-Catholic.

This replacement of supernatural religion with natural nationalism is erroneous. This is naturalism.


15 posted on 09/23/2011 12:40:58 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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