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Poll: Americans Believe Big Gov't Messes With God's Plan
The Christian Post ^ | Sep. 21 2011 | Stephanie Samuel

Posted on 09/21/2011 1:03:05 PM PDT by wmfights

A new study shows that a majority of Americans believe God is the guiding force that is leading America's economy and the government is too big. As a result, sociologists concluded these believers are upset about U.S. economic policy because they believe increased government regulation and interference in personal freedoms go against God's plans.

According to the Baylor Religion survey data released Tuesday, a majority of Americans (73.1 percent) agreed or “strongly” agreed with the statement “God has a plan for me.” Of those who believe God has a plan, more than 96 percent said that government was doing too much.

Paul Froese, associate professor of sociology for Baylor University, suggested that many Americans believe that an "engaged" God guides America's economic direction.

"A way of thinking of this is the 'invisible hand,' spoken of by Adam Smith, has really become God's hand for many Americas,” Froese said.

Adam Smith was a Scottish philosopher commonly credited with concept of the free market, and the “invisible hand” symbolizes the self-regulating nature of the marketplace.

Those who believe in an engaged God also tend to believe government is too involved in Americans' affairs, able-bodied people should not receive unemployment checks, and success has little to do with luck.

Nearly 53 percent of those who “strongly” agreed that God has a plan said government does too much. Among the respondents who simply agreed, 43 percent also said they believe the government is doing too much.

Nearly 88 percent of those who believe God has a plan said they trust that "anything is possible for those who work hard" and 56.1 percent agreed that "success is achieved by ability rather than luck."

Therefore, Froese explained, relaxed regulation and decreased taxation is thought to be part of God's plan for many Americans. These believers also think God is angry with government regulation and its interference with the free market, he said.

"I think there is clearly an ethos today for some Americans that government is a profane object," he said. "So government regulation, government intervention messes with God's plan."

Craig Vincent Mitchell, an associate professor of Ethics for the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, clarified to The Christian Post, "It's not that the market is something that is established by God but it's consistent with God's created order."

Mitchell disagrees with Froese's suggestion that Christians believe God is angry about regulation or entitlements, but said, "Like anything, if you against go against God's order, you’re going to have to pay a consequence."

One of those consequences, Mitchell said, is the church's lost role as the charitable arm of American society.

"As the government has grown in this area [of charity], the church has shrunk," he noted. "What needs to happen is that the church needs to get back in the business of taking care of the poor."

In the Baylor survey, 70 percent of all those who believe in God's plan also agreed that the government should not be the one providing entitlement assistance to healthy, unemployed Americans.

The survey did not ask participants if they felt that the church should provide unemployment assistance.

Quoting Romans 13, Mitchell said, "God has established government as His agent to reward the good and punish the evil. The job of government is to execute justice and righteousness."

Mitchell said Christians, not government, are called to dispense charity. Federal taxes should be used to provide a justice system, national defense and public works, not to redistribute wealth, he added.

"Those so-called Christians who believe the government should tax the rich forget that there is a commandment that says that 'thou shall not covet,'" Mitchell commented.

Froese, meanwhile, noted that those in the Baylor report who favored a redistribution of wealth tended to be less religious.

"Those Americans who favor reductions of wealth in favor of equality also tend to believe that there is no ultimate truth and there is no such thing as divine intervention," he concluded.

The survey interviewed 1,714 adults chosen randomly from across the country. Respondents answered more than 300 questions in the Baylor Religion Survey. The survey was designed by Baylor University scholars and conducted by The Gallup Organization in the fall of 2010.


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: biggovt
Mitchell said Christians, not government, are called to dispense charity. Federal taxes should be used to provide a justice system, national defense and public works, not to redistribute wealth, he added.

"Those so-called Christians who believe the government should tax the rich forget that there is a commandment that says that 'thou shall not covet,'" Mitchell commented.

Froese, meanwhile, noted that those in the Baylor report who favored a redistribution of wealth tended to be less religious

1 posted on 09/21/2011 1:03:17 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: Alex Murphy
Ping

I thought you might find this interesting. The Evangelical view is very different from that in the thread you posted earlier.

2 posted on 09/21/2011 1:05:24 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...
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Interesting view of how Evangelical Christians view the role of govt.

3 posted on 09/21/2011 1:07:33 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights
A new study shows that a majority of Americans believe God is the guiding force that is leading America's economy .....

Render unto Wall Street the things that are Wall Street's, and unto God the things that are God's.

4 posted on 09/21/2011 1:22:47 PM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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To: wmfights

This can be resumed as “attempting to engineer society is a foolish endeavor for us puny humans”. Thinking government can mess by itself with such a complex system the way it tries without making it worse is not far away from witchery.


5 posted on 09/21/2011 1:30:51 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: Moose Burger

Nothing wrong in being a good steward over that which He has provided us. Meanwhile, one of the roles of government is to enforce a legal system which discriminates between criminal behavior, while defending the liberty of free men in their volition to follow His Will.

It is foolish to judge God by now mandating all counterfeit systems of false religion be given as much authority as that which He provides. Such a world attempts to place anything before God except that which He has provided.


6 posted on 09/21/2011 2:36:42 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: wmfights

They have a weak powerless God


7 posted on 09/21/2011 3:29:00 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Cvengr

Yep, steward is one thing, but government is going from there to full Dr. Frankenstein by sawing society’s limbs and sewing them in “creative” places to create what it deems a “perfect” society while leaving a whole mess all around.


8 posted on 09/21/2011 3:44:08 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: RnMomof7

Amen


9 posted on 09/21/2011 4:02:16 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights; Alex Murphy; RnMomof7

I’m not sure what Alex posted but I’m skeptical of this study (even though I agree with its premise and conclusion). Survey after survey suggest religion is on the decline (especially a God-centered religion). I suspect those surveyed are people who are fed up with big government period and they would like to find someone else to take the responsibility.


10 posted on 09/21/2011 4:17:58 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: wmfights

Delusional.


11 posted on 09/21/2011 4:20:29 PM PDT by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: HarleyD
As always good points.
12 posted on 09/21/2011 4:22:11 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Moose Burger

Charity is difficult to institutionalize even within Christian groups. It boils down to the thinking of the people giving with no anticipation or expectation of anything in return, including appreciative reception of grace.

Conversely, observe how ‘secular charitable organizations’ adapt in a worldly environment. Judgment, expectation of gratitude and molding a false object of worship are only a few of the natural consequences for the soulish mind.


13 posted on 09/21/2011 6:58:26 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: wmfights
The Evangelical view is very different from that in the thread you posted earlier.

Why is it that when I see something referred to as "the evangelical view", it's often something I find shallow and not well thought through?

14 posted on 09/22/2011 7:57:49 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("We are assailed by two sects...." John Calvin, Reply to Cardinal Sadoleto, 1539)
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To: RnMomof7
They have a weak powerless God

That's my thought. The handwringing God, who doesn't always get what He wants.

15 posted on 09/22/2011 7:59:16 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("We are assailed by two sects...." John Calvin, Reply to Cardinal Sadoleto, 1539)
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To: Lee N. Field

YEP


16 posted on 09/22/2011 1:11:34 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Polybius
"Render unto Wall Street the things that are Wall Street's, and unto God the things that are God's."

I don't know if you were being sarcastic in the way you revised Matthew 22:21, perhaps in a way that might emphasize that text.

When Jesus Christ said, "Render unto Caesar . . . " Caesar was actually and literally the sovereign in the Roman Empire, including in Rome's tributaries, like the land of Israel.

In the united States of America, we must know who is the sovereign. Is the federal government the sovereign ("Caesar") as per our nation's Constitution, original guiding principles, history, etc.?

Are our citizens supposed to be made subjects to a federal "Caesar?"

Or is not the private citizen rather the sovereign, and the federal government subject to the private sovereign citizen?

In America, I, as a sovereign citizen, am NOT required to render unto the federal government as a "Caesar." To the contrary, WE are "Caesar," and the federal government has the biblical duty to render under us what is ours.

17 posted on 09/27/2011 7:28:26 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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