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To: Zionist Conspirator; Natural Law
Well, here's one of your evolutionist co-religionists, mas. Are you going to say something or keep quiet?

On a previous occasion I posted to you:

I do not remember seeing Catholics represent evolution and high criticism as Church teaching. Ping me next time you see a post like that I will respond, time permitting.

In this thread I see Natural Law apparently arguing that one can simultaneously believe in evolution and the inerrancy of scripture. Of course I disagree, but I have not seen him go so far as to represent evolution as part of Church teaching. It seems to me that he is just reflexively defending against what he perceives to be and attack upon the Church.

I think it is possible for a Christian to innocently believe in evolution through ignorance. Most people are not constitutionally capable of accepting that the scientific establishment would intentionally perpetrate such a colossal fraud upon the general public. Disbelief in evolution has never, to my knowledge, been declared a dogmatic requirement of the Faith by any Church council or pope. Perhaps it will be some day, but for now I can hardly accuse of Natural Law of heresy for his modest arguments on this thread.

There is too much direct heresy floating around these days for me to be overly focused on derivative side issues like theistic evolution.

70 posted on 09/19/2011 3:31:58 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor
"Of course I disagree, but I have not seen him go so far as to represent evolution as part of Church teaching."

I have not claimed (Theistic) Evolution to be Church teaching, only that it is not incompatible with Church teaching. As Cardinal Ratzinger so eloquently stated:

"Difference Between Form and Content"
"One answer was already worked out some time ago, as the scientific view of the world was gradually crystallizing; many of you probably came across it in your religious instruction. It says that the Bible is not a natural science textbook, nor does it intend to be such. It is a religious book, and consequently one cannot obtain information about the natural sciences from it. One cannot get from it a scientific explanation of how the world arose; one can only glean religious experience from it. Anything else is an image and a way of describing things whose aim is to make profound realities graspable to human beings. One must distinguish between the form of portrayal and the content that is portrayed. The form would have been chosen from what was understandable at the time -- from the images which surrounded the people who lived then, which they used in speaking and in thinking, and thanks to which they were able to understand the greater realities. And only the reality that shines through these images would be what was intended and what was truly enduring. Thus Scripture would not wish to inform us about how the different species of plant life gradually appeared or how the sun and the moon and the stars were established. Its purpose ultimately would be to say one thing: God created the world."

73 posted on 09/19/2011 4:11:09 PM PDT by Natural Law (For God so loved the world He did not send a book.)
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To: mas cerveza por favor
On a previous occasion I posted to you: I do not remember seeing Catholics represent evolution and high criticism as Church teaching. Ping me next time you see a post like that I will respond, time permitting.

No need to reply, but here's a ton of links for reference:
The Catholic Priest Praised by Einstein for Explaining the Universe
Catholicism and evolution: Are they contradictory?
Pope: Humanity isn't random product of evolution
God was behind Big Bang, universe no accident: Pope
Pope praises science, but insists God created world
The Problem of Polygenism in Accepting the Theory of Evolution [Catholic Msgr. Charles Pope]
Radio Replies Second Volume - Creation and Evolution
A meeting of religion and science: Sister Frances Zajac sees no conflict in her callings
Atheist says that Church accepts darwinism [Catholic Caucus]
Let Science Be Science and Faith Be Faith
Creationists, Intelligent Design Advocates Blast Vatican for Not Inviting Them to Evo Conference
Catholics on Evolution (Ecumenical)
Vatican evolution congress to exclude creationism, intelligent design
Catholic universities plan scientific examination of evolutionary theory
God made pre-humans into people, Vatican newspaper says [Open]
How a Catholic priest gave us the Big Bang Theory
Evangelicals should follow Catholic example on evolution
Austrian cardinal says Darwinism should be studied as science
The Sense that it is True that Six-Day Creationism is Paganism
Creationist Defends Bible-Based Science Against Vatican Astronomer's Criticism
Vatican Paper Hits 'Intelligent Design'

76 posted on 09/19/2011 4:52:00 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed: he's hated on seven continents)
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To: mas cerveza por favor
There is too much direct heresy floating around these days for me to be overly focused on derivative side issues like theistic evolution.

A derivative side issue? Is that what you think theistic evolution is?

Theistic evolution (along with higher criticism) is in fact the root and source of the chaos in the Catholic Church today. And you don't recognize that?

I was right. Even the most "conservative" Catholic is in fact a liberal.

88 posted on 09/21/2011 9:01:54 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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