[MarkBsnr]

I am jumping in late, but your statement: Here’s an even bigger hint: the Jewish OT God is not a Trinity either. Strikes me as in need of fleshing out. Beyond the Christian claim to the OT, did not our Lord point out Psalm 110 in the Gospels?

Okay. My point is that the OT taken by itself does formulate a Trinity. Just ask any observant Orthodox Jew if the Lord God Almighty is a trinity, for instance.

It is only with the understanding of Nicea that we can look backwards and pick out those passages and phrases in the OT that would seem to support the NT Christian Trinitarian understanding. But consider this: there are many "Christians" who are not Trinitarian. Oneness Pentecostals, Mormons and Jehovahs' Witnesses are some of the "Christian" groups that do not believe in the Trinity.

Taken by themselves, the Synoptic Gospels and the writings of Paul are not strictly Trinitarian and cannot be used to derive Trinitarian beliefs from first principles either. It is to the Gospel of John that we must look.

[bkaycee]

: there are many "Christians" who are not Trinitarian. Oneness Pentecostals, Mormons and Jehovahs' Witnesses are some of the "Christian" groups that do not believe in the Trinity.

Those groups are hardly "Christian".

Mormons are polytheists, Jehovahs W's are Neo Arians, Ones groups are Modalists, I believe.