[Iscool]

In the meantime, our side, finding in Scripture deep and broad support for the ideas of “sacred tradition” and the Magisterium, views the claims of your side to a kind of Scriptural empiricism both strange and unsupported by Scripture.

If we can not find your broad and deep support in the scripture for your tradition and magisterium, neither can you...It ain't there...

But for any on your side who want to dispute our side's idea of timelessness and time, I'd encourage a study of the tenses of Biblical Hebrew. Think about a language with only two tenses, both of which will sometimes be translated with our past, present, and future tenses.

We don't need to...It's already been done by countless persons...All we have to do is read their stuff...

So which tense did the Hebrews/God leave out of their language??? Past, present or future...How could they carry on a conversation???

[smvoice]

"How could they carry on a conversation?"

"We go hunt. Get big deer. Make happy for us. We build Parthenon. Make happy for us...".

[Mad Dawg]

To both your questions my answer is that I’m not going to do your work for you.