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To: metmom
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And Mary lied when she stated that God was her savior, because if she was born without a sin nature and never sinned, she would not have needed a savior. Not to mention that she would not have been fully human either.
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Does the phrase “Sin nature” appear in Scripture?

(1) If one without sin is not fully human, then the Son of Man, who was without sin, was not fully human, and Adam and Eve were not fully human until they fell. Quod absurdum est.

(2) If you fall off a cliff and I come and rescue you and bind your wounds and so forth, I have saved you. If, seeing you are about to fall off a cliff, I grab you and prevent the fall, I have also saved you.

While we now need laws and plans to save us from an economic disaster in which we are, Obama at least pretended that Porkulus would save us from falling into this situation.

The first is how Jesus is savior to us. The second is how he was Savior to Mary.

3,616 posted on 09/16/2011 3:50:36 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Except that Scripture says we all fell off the cliff.

Romans 3: 9What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, 10as it is written:
"None is righteous, no, not one; 11no one understands; no one seeks for God. 12All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one."

Romans 3:21-25 21But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— 22the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,25whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith.

*all* is *all*, MD.

3,630 posted on 09/16/2011 7:39:30 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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