[CynicalBear]

One can simply take the foundation for the Catholic belief that Mary is the woman in Revelation 12 as proof that she is bodily in heaven to see that they are in error. The woman in Revelation 12 is the nation of Israel and not Mary.

On and on one can show that much of the Catholic Church dogma is built on error and mysticism. Speculation and conjecture are rampant in their theology and doctrine.

[caww]

... much of the Catholic Church dogma is built on error and mysticism. Speculation and conjecture are rampant in their theology and doctrine.

Yes, I have found this to be so as well...but never realized this until getting on these religious threads. I've learned more about what catholics believe from the catholics on FR than the average catholic I've met along the way, because they so often don't know why they believe what they do....nor are they much interested in finding out.