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To: HossB86
Really? Then why does SCRIPTURE teach that there is one mediator between God and man, the man Jesus Christ (paraphrase of 1 Tim. 2:5) and the Roman Catholic Catechism teaches that Mary is a "co-mediatrix"??

Actually the quote is this.....969 "This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation . . . . Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix."512

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time.

Interesting, Scripture says there's only ONE mediator, not two.

It looks like they don't even consider her *co-* but rather mediatrix. No need for Jesus then, is there?

2,891 posted on 09/11/2011 6:15:03 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
"It looks like they don't even consider her *co-* but rather mediatrix. No need for Jesus then, is there?"

Are you trying to be deceitful or just being sloppy? Because anyone sincerely interested in discussing the truth would have presented the ENTIRE position of the Church. The Catechism references Lumen gentium 62, with respect to the term mediatrix, which says:

"Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked by the Church under the titles of Advocate, Auxiliatrix, Adjutrix, and Mediatrix. This, however, is to be so understood that it neither takes away from nor adds anything to the dignity and efficaciousness of Christ the one Mediator."

"For no creature could ever be counted as equal with the Incarnate Word and Redeemer. Just as the priesthood of Christ is shared in various ways both by the ministers and by the faithful, and as the one goodness of God is really communicated in different ways to His creatures, so also the unique mediation of the Redeemer does not exclude but rather gives rise to a manifold cooperation which is but a sharing in this one source.

The Church does not hesitate to profess this subordinate role of Mary. It knows it through unfailing experience of it and commends it to the hearts of the faithful, so that encouraged by this maternal help they may the more intimately adhere to the Mediator and Redeemer.

2,895 posted on 09/11/2011 6:36:06 PM PDT by Natural Law (For God so loved the world He did not send a book.)
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To: metmom

Hi Met -—

Thanks for the catch — was reading “co-redemptrix” and transposed it in by mistake.

Good point though — if she’s THE Mediatrix, why DO Catholics need Jesus?

Hmmm. “The Mediatrix” — might make for an interesting move. NOT.

:D

Hoss


2,901 posted on 09/11/2011 6:56:45 PM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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