What debt did Jesus have to pay that was "his debt"? Do you understand that he paid OUR debt? He not only opened the gate but he is the DOOR, we go through him to get to Heaven. We receive him, believing on him as our savior, trusting in him who paid our sin debt and THAT is how we go through the door. He said, "I am the way, the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father but by me.". You know the saying, "It's my way or the highway"? Well the Father says his way is through Jesus who is THE only way. The way we "make our way through the gate" is by faith. BY grace THROUGH faith.
bb:”Do you understand that he paid OUR debt”
I would guess that stonehouse understands that. It may help to ask him first if he means that when Jesus “became sin for us” and took our sins in his body upon the Cross that He paid his debt.
It may just be a manner of expressing on stonehouse’s part that isn’t as clear as it should be.
Let him explain himself.
Jesus paid our debt - it was not His debt. We do not disagree.
I am sorry if that was not clear. I assumed that Christians would know what I meant. -His debt is Our debt - that is why he is the Redeemer.
Grace, Faith and works my friend - there is no free ride to heaven - you have to work it
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A gift is a gift.
We don’t have to earn it.
When someone gives you a Christmas gift, is it free and unconditional? A birthday gift? A wedding gift?
ANY kind of gift?
Are they earned and do you have to perform (or work if you will) to keep them? Or are they your possession by the virtue of the simple fact that they were given to you AS A GIFT?