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To: Not gonna take it anymore; CynicalBear; smvoice; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; ...
smvoice:Enoch was important enough for God to mention his bodily assumption. Elijah was important enough for God to mention his bodily assumption.

And yet...Mary's bodily assumption is never mentioned.

THAT'S why it's important. If He thought Enoch and Elijah important enough to mention, why would He not have mentioned Mary, Queen of Heaven and Earth, Co-Redeemer, Mediatress of all Grace, etc., etc.??

Ngtia: Maybe God thought we would be intelligent enough to realize Mary’s Assumption.

That is sheer desperation speaking there.

It's really pathetic to see the lengths Catholics will go to justify a teaching or doctrine which is totally and completely incapable of being supported by Scripture.

2,603 posted on 09/10/2011 5:30:29 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
It's really pathetic to see the lengths Catholics will go to justify a teaching or doctrine which is totally and completely incapable of being supported by Scripture.

They have no choice but to do so Metmom. For their instructions on 'what to believe' rests first on what the Vatican says they are to believe, to do otherwise is an affront to the Vatican.

As long as they hold 'the traditions of men' equal to or better than scriptures they cannot budge without opposing Rome. They just do not 'believe' the scriptures are the absolute ultimate authority. Therefore that is doubting Gods word. Thus they fall into all manner of "other" beliefs......just as so many false religions do as well as the cults etc. who follow "traditions of men".

2,611 posted on 09/10/2011 5:46:30 PM PDT by caww
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Excuse Me? Desperation?

You know, I hope that when you finally face your final judgement that you can face Jesus with a straight face and say “I dishonored your mother. And I really hope you’re okay with that.”

I wonder what He will say to you.

You used to practice the Catholic faith. I have no idea why you left nor do I care. But you must have learned something.


2,615 posted on 09/10/2011 5:53:46 PM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore
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Ngtia: Maybe God thought we would be intelligent enough to realize Mary’s Assumption...........MM: That is sheer desperation speaking there.

LOL! Desperation indeed! What does human intelligence have to do with the supernatural? Oh prideful man! This is the utter nonsense that comes from those who do not take His Word as the final authority. Led astray by their own understanding through disobedience. "Trust in the LORD with ALL your heart and lean NOT on your own understanding; in ALL your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your paths straight." Proverbs 3:5,6

And in defiance, they apply their earthly understanding of a mother to His Kingdom IN SPITE of what Jesus said who His mother is.

Mark: Answering them, Jesus said, "Who are My mother and My brothers?" Looking about at those who were sitting around Him, He said, "Behold My mother and My brothers! "For whoever does the will of God, he is My brother and sister and mother."

Luke: "But he answered them, “My mother and my brothers are those who hear the Word of God and do it.”

Matthew: "Pointing to his disciples, Jesus said, "Here are my mother and my brothers." For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother."

They ignore Jesus and HIS Word - and they are going to claim they KNOW and follow HIM? LOL!! Metmom, Jesus considers you His mother and your husband His brother - we are HIS FAMILY because we hear and obey His Word. While the worldly Vatican/RCC says 'no'! They are TOTALLY void of Truth, the Holy Spirit - no spiritual discernment. Mark 7:13 "And so you cancel the Word of God in order to hand down your own tradition. And this is only one example among many others."

The Vatican/RCC/Catholics are not His family as they refuse to hear and deliberately disobey. They don't even use intelligence to grasp 50 or 100 years here is a drop of time compared to eternity - so they better make every effort to seek the TRUTH and that Truth is His Word. It IS THE FINAL AUTHORITY!
2,621 posted on 09/10/2011 6:20:09 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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