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To: bronx2
>> Surely your interpretative skills can reconcile this apparent contradiction between your words and the Words of Our Savior.<<

James2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

Absolutely. When a person is saved he/she is promised the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. He/she now has a new heart. With the influence of the Holy Spirit the desires change from wanting to follow carnal desires to wanting to follow the guiding of the Holy Spirit. With the guiding of the Holy Spirit there will be a desire to do the “works” such as helping those in need etc. It’s not the works that save but the works show that the person truly has faith. It’s a natural affect of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. It’s an indication of the faith. “by their fruits ye shall know them”. Fruits of what? Fruits of the Spirit.

>> Now that you agree the rapture/dispensation/ Harold Camping are complete nonsense would you care to make a prediction on the end of times?<<

One thousand years after the battle of Armageddon.

>> If as you say "Only God knows their heart" how much of an allowance does He make for faulty interpretations and is there a pass fail grade given by God for erroneous interpretations?<<

“believe on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved-and your house”. That means believe that Jesus is who He says He is and is the only way to the Father and eternal life with Him. He has paid the total and complete price for our salvation.

>> "Those who are left behind will need to read Revelations" doesn't this advice seem questionable as Luther wished to excise this work from scripture. Why read a book the reformers felt not inspired Are you advising these to swim the Tiber?.<<

I couldn’t care less what the reformers said. I’ll rely on Jesus words and what the Apostles wrote.

No mysticism or experiential knowledge other then relying on God’s written word. Self knowledge that doesn’t line up with scripture is dangerous at best. Nice try setting a trap though.

2,462 posted on 09/09/2011 9:54:42 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

Faith without works is Dead. This means we have to work at it-— we are not Saved by Faith alone - just because we love Christ — we must work for our whole lives and run the race .


2,466 posted on 09/09/2011 10:16:59 PM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: CynicalBear
Your attempt at explaining this indwelling appears self serving in that anyone can assert such a claim.

If Jesus told the apostles in Mt 24 36-37 that the end time knowledge is reserved to the Father how then can you be so bold to assert that the answer is " One thousand years after the battle of Armageddon"?

Are you manufacturing scripture or are you lacking this indwelling of the Holy Spirit but have an indwelling of some other type of spirit?

So if you reject the reformers you then must rely on the Church who preserved the written words of the Savior. Is what we have here a closet Catholic?

What a startling revelation. How interesting

2,533 posted on 09/10/2011 9:46:29 AM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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