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To: CynicalBear; Alex Murphy
On 4 April 1553 Servetus was arrested by Roman Catholic authorities, and imprisoned in Vienne. Look it up.

The footwork is becoming fast and furious. You claimed that Servetus was convicted by a Catholic court. Alex showed that that claim is false. The secular authorities convicted him.

Btw who is Alex? I wasn’t responding to anyone named Alex and whoever that is had nothing to do with who I was first responding to.

The name of the poster that I replied to who supplied the information and addressed it primarily to you at 2305. Do you not read posts addressed to you, or do you summarily dismiss and forget them when you disapprove of the content?

Or do you prooftext posts like Protestants do the Bible, selecting single out-of-context verses they like and simply blotting out entire chapters or books that they do not.

2,409 posted on 09/09/2011 6:28:00 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; CynicalBear
The footwork is becoming fast and furious. You claimed that Servetus was convicted by a Catholic court. Alex showed that that claim is false. The secular authorities convicted him.

I made no such claim. But oh well - so much for France being an officially Catholic state in the sixteenth century, and so much for the Inquisition sentencing Servetus to death in absentia twenty years earlier than his execution in Geneva:

On Apr. 4, 1533, Servetus was arrested at Vienne and examined on the two days following, when he denied that he was Servetus, claimed to have adopted the name of that scholar that he might measure himself with Calvin in dialectics, and offered to make complete retractation. On Apr. 7 he was permitted to escape, either to guard the archbishop and other noted friends of Servetus against further embarrassment, or to save the Inquisition from being made a catspaw for Calvin. The trial, however, continued, and on June 17 Servetus was condemned to the stake, his books and his effigy being burned in his stead.

2,426 posted on 09/09/2011 7:40:27 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed: he's hated on seven continents)
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To: MarkBsnr; Alex Murphy
>> The footwork is becoming fast and furious. You claimed that Servetus was convicted by a Catholic court. Alex showed that that claim is false. The secular authorities convicted him.<<

On April 4, 1553, Servetus was arrested by the Roman Catholic authorities, and imprisoned in Vienne. He escaped from prison three days later. On June 17, he was convicted of heresy by the French inquisition, and sentenced to be burned with his books. An effigy and his books were burned in his absence. (http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Michael_Servetus )

Then let’s look at the first guy who did the questioning Matthieu Ory and see what the Catholic Encyclopedia has to say about him.

Inquisitor and theologian, b. at La Caune, 1492; d. at Paris, 1557. Entering the Dominican Order at the age of eighteen, he studied, he studied in the convent of St-Jacques, Paris, and at the Sorbonne, obtaining the licentiate in theology, 6 February, 1527. (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11333a.htm) Obviously not a protestan reformer.

Do we need to do research on whether or not the French inquisition was Catholic or Protestant?

On August 13, he attended a sermon by Calvin at Geneva. He was immediately recognized and arrested after the service[6] and was again imprisoned and had all his property confiscated.

If you look at the dates Servetus was first convicted by the Catholics. As I said in an earlier post, both the Catholics and Calvin and his reformers were both complicit.

Oh, btw, Alex and I have had private freepmail corespondence about this and other things long before these last posts by you. Didn’t need you in the conversation it seems.

2,430 posted on 09/09/2011 7:50:16 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: MarkBsnr
The secular authorities convicted him

There were not any secular authorities...They were all Catholic...

2,450 posted on 09/09/2011 9:04:36 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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