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To: Jvette
>>No where does Scripture say that a belief must be rooted only in the written Word.<<

I Corinthians 4:6 “Now these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes; that in us you might learn not to go beyond the things which are written; that no one of you be puffed up for the one against the other.”

Luke writes in Acts that even after listening to Paul and Silas searching the scriptures was to be commended.

Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

>>Do you believe Moses is in heaven?<<

I never speculate on things like that unless I personally know the person and have been able to experience their heart.

>>Did Jesus not tell us that no one but the Father knows the day and the hour when the Son of Man will return.

You may be getting into an area that gets complicated for you. You have already said you hesitate on Revelation. Scripture tells us that there will be a seven year tribulation down to the day. Now if that is prophesied those alive at that time surely will know the exact day when it is going to be a specific number of days after the Anti Christ enters the Temple.

2,176 posted on 09/08/2011 8:54:38 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.

7For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?

This passage, taken from the KJV is quite a bit different from the “new translations”.

Here Paul is telling them that they should not go beyond what is written is trying to aggrandize themselves. To make as if they know something others don’t in an effort to bring themselves glory.

Not nearly the same as saying that only the written word has all the truth that the Holy Spirit will lead the church into.

In your next passage...Those scriptures which they searched were the OT regarding Jesus and if what the Apostles were saying about Him was truth.

Remember, this was radical to a Jew of that time. They were talking about the long awaited Messiah and a New Covenant.
As we know, this was faith and life altering, not merely a question of some Jewish law or practice. If Jesus was not the Messiah, the Apostles were talking gibberish and thus were merely proponents of another cult. Gamalies speaks of that when he stops them from killing Peter and the others.

Acts 5:36-3936For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought.

37After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed.

38And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:

39But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.

The Jewish people knew their Scripture. Isn’t it interesting that some saw Jesus as the Messiah and others didn’t, even though they had the same Scripture?

So you do not speculate on such things unless you have know the person and experienced their heart. Okay. Do you believe that when one dies and they have believed in Jesus their soul is in heaven? And their body awaits resurrection?

In the case of Mary, with ample evidence that God has taken others to heaven, both body and soul, Catholics believe that Jesus has taken His Mother to be with Him there.

I find that to be true. Not just because the Church has said so, that is just the beginning of knowing, but because I have searched Scriptures and find it supports that truth. It makes perfect sense to me that Our Lord would receive His Mother into heaven, both body and soul. Just as God prepared her to receive Him in her body, I believe He has rewarded her faithfulness in the same way He rewarded others.

Now if that is prophesied those alive at that time surely will know the exact day when it is going to be a specific number of days after the Anti Christ enters the Temple.

Many have thought they knew it and been wrong. Jesus says no one knows but the Father.


2,304 posted on 09/09/2011 9:09:07 AM PDT by Jvette
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