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To: Iscool

I disagree, name it and claims and prosperity gospels are rather new.

Acceptance of homosexuality as no longer a sin and homosexual marriage is new.

Acceptance of contraception and abortion are new.

There are all kinds of new churches with odd beliefs.

Catholics are not immune to the lies Satan spreads, but individual Catholics do not make binding doctrine. When they fall victim to these things, they are sinning and leaving the bosom of the Church, which is sure and true.

And I question how literal protestants take Scripture when there is a glaring example of how that is just not so.

The only unity of doctrine protestants share is that which came to them from the Catholic Church.

Not a single protestant came to that knowledge free of any other human influence. Not one can claim with honesty to have searched Scriptures and found those particular doctrines believable and have done so without any human tutelage. One can only claim to have accepted what they have learned from others after studying Scripture.

I never wonder at the unity of protestants regarding faith and doctrine. Instead, I am saddened by the disunity I see.

The only unity I have ever seen in protestants is in their equal disdain, disparagement and damnatory accusations against Catholics.

There is no bondage in belonging to the Church. We are not told what to think, believe or read. The Church proclaims the truth which we may accept or not accept. Unfortunately, many Catholics fall prey to the siren call of protestantism and other non Christian religions.


2,128 posted on 09/08/2011 6:30:27 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: Jvette; Iscool
>> The only unity of doctrine protestants share is that which came to them from the Catholic Church.<<

Seriously Jvette you need to realize that the beliefs that Catholics and Protestants share existed long before the RCC was ever formed. You keep trying to convince us that the RCC was Jesus. It is not. The beliefs that are common to both come from Jesus. Not the RCC.

2,133 posted on 09/08/2011 6:43:00 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Jvette
The Church proclaims the truth which we may accept or not accept.

I like this line. I do not know but, Thank God, God knows.

The visible church proclaims many things some true and some not. That is okay, we all see through a glass darkly.

When we hear something the Holy Spirit inside us will discern if it is true or not. Christ lives in us. God's Word is the final authority.

There is not one visible church in this world without baggage. I know from experience my church does. Every church has weeds and wheat.

I for one will not decide what church anyone should attend. What if God wants you to be wheat amongst a big pile of weeds? Mother Teresa is good example of wheat as shown by her fruits. David Wilkerson is also wheat.

2,213 posted on 09/09/2011 1:55:59 AM PDT by marbren (I do not know but, Thank God, God knows)
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To: Jvette
And I question how literal protestants take Scripture when there is a glaring example of how that is just not so. I didn't say all Protestants take the scriptures literally...I said those that do share in a pretty common unity...

The only unity of doctrine protestants share is that which came to them from the Catholic Church.

Uh, I and those non Catholics that I know share in nothing that came from the Catholic religion...You're just repeating their talking points...

Not a single protestant came to that knowledge free of any other human influence. Not one can claim with honesty to have searched Scriptures and found those particular doctrines believable and have done so without any human tutelage. One can only claim to have accepted what they have learned from others after studying Scripture.

On paper it may look good...But in reality, it's absolutely not true...In my earlier years, I can remember pouring over the scriptures and numerous times having hit upon scriptures that completed the puzzle that confronted me...Just me, God's word and the Holy Spirit...

You nor anyone you have come in contact with obviously have never encountered such a thing...That certainly does not make it not so...

I never wonder at the unity of protestants regarding faith and doctrine. Instead, I am saddened by the disunity I see.

You don't see as much disunity as you think...I can (and have) gone into many churches of varied denominations and knew I was sitting there with my brethren...I wouldn't feel too sorry for us if I was you...

There is no bondage in belonging to the Church. We are not told what to think, believe or read. The Church proclaims the truth which we may accept or not accept. Unfortunately, many Catholics fall prey to the siren call of protestantism and other non Christian religions.

You just keep on believing that, Christian...While you are sitting amongst the flames that they told you was purgatory, we'll be in heaven worshiping Jesus...

2,253 posted on 09/09/2011 5:34:54 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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