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To: Mad Dawg
Again, we take Col 1:24 to imply that there IS a way that we can co-operate or contribute to Christ's redemptive work.

Problem is, there are far too many other verses that say you can't...

But what is it specifically that you can suffer that Jesus was behind in that will contribute to your own salvation???

I don't see how you even get that from reading the verse...

Col 1:24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:

Paul is not saying that Jesus didn't receive enough afflictions so Paul had to make up for it...

Paul is saying he rejoices in his suffering because what little suffering he has in his flesh is nothing compared to what Jesus suffered...And this can and is verified by numerous scriptures...

Mat_5:11-12; Act_5:41; Rom_5:3; 2Co_7:4; Eph_3:1, Eph_3:13; Phi_2:17-18, Jam_1:2, 2Co_1:5-8, 2Co_4:8-12, 2Co_11:23-27; Phi_3:10; 2Ti_1:8, 2Ti_2:9-10

2,018 posted on 09/08/2011 1:26:39 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Iscool
Iscool, you come close. There is nothing in there about redemption, true, but if you look at the source of that word “behind”.
It indicates a shortage or lack so that in a less archaic English Paul would say his sufferings are less than the Christ's and Paul is willing to suffer still more for the body, the church.
2,032 posted on 09/08/2011 2:03:17 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Iscool

AMEN, Iscool. AMEN!


2,034 posted on 09/08/2011 2:07:59 PM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: Iscool; Mad Dawg; CynicalBear
Col 1:24: "Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:".

To fill up means to complete. Paul is simply stating his rejoicing in his sufferings and completing those sufferings for the church and for the truth. NOT the sufferings of Christ for our sins. All believers are called to suffer for the church and the truth. (Rom. 8:18; 2 Tim. 3:12).

2,037 posted on 09/08/2011 2:23:18 PM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: Iscool

I think this is one case where the KJV gets it utterly wrong. You won’t believe me so do a word study an hysteremata. It’s interesting.


2,134 posted on 09/08/2011 6:44:28 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (In my Father's trailer park are many double-wides. (apologies to Iscool))
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