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To: Mad Dawg

My contention is, and always has been, that saying that Mary was the mother of Christ says something different than Mary was the mother of God.

GOD, is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, eternal, without beginning or end.

Christ, during His incarnation, had a point of conception, although His nature didn’t.

It’s a technicality, but it is a distinction. The eternal, no beginning GOD did not have a mother. The Incarnation of CHRIST did. Saying the mother of Christ says something different than saying the mother of God.

Saying that Mary was the mother of God can too easily be construed as saying that Mary was the mother of the Godhead.

As long as the RCC continues to say that Mary was the mother of God, it will continue to carry the implication that Mary was the mother of the Godhead, as that is what it is saying if you stick to the plain meanings of the words.

It’s battle Catholics will fight and never win trying to explain it away. That only makes them look duplicitous,


1,278 posted on 09/06/2011 3:56:04 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
The eternal, no beginning GOD did not have a mother. The Incarnation of CHRIST did. Saying the mother of Christ says something different than saying the mother of God.

From OUR POV the problem is the unity of natures in the one person.

And a proper understanding of "mother." Every mother mothers something which is partially not her nature. That's why I kept referring to the mothers of boys.

Christ, during His incarnation, had a point of conception, although His nature didn’t.

But that "conceptus" was God.

Saying that Mary was the mother of God can too easily be construed as saying that Mary was the mother of the Godhead.

Not for people who understand the question. This might be an example of how community is important.

As long as the RCC continues to say that Mary was the mother of God, it will continue to carry the implication that Mary was the mother of the Godhead, as that is what it is saying if you stick to the plain meanings of the words.

I would say:
As long as the RCC continues to say that Mary was the mother of God, it will continue to carry the implication risk that the ignorant will infer that Mary was the mother of the Godhead, as that is what it is saying if you stick to the plain meanings of the words , unless you understand that the question arose in a debate about WHAT Jesus was, the debate which led to Ephesus and Chalcedon, with which neither Luther, Calvin, nor the Anglican divines disagreed.

1,285 posted on 09/06/2011 4:39:54 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: metmom

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.


1,380 posted on 09/06/2011 9:36:29 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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