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To: MarkBsnr
I was hoping that you'd post this. Let me ask this: is this a "man" as in "human being"? Or does this mean "male" as opposed to "female". Think carefully. I would be interested if after all this time, you'd answer the question that if sin nature only comes through the male, then a human being created by two eggs (coming soon) would be absolutely sinless, right? Right?

To be honest, I was not the first to post those verses to your query. Regarding whether this "man" meant the human race, I would answer not specifically in this passage seeing as it names the first man - Adam. However, after this first failure of "a" man the sin nature was passed down to all "men" - humanity - male and female and even neuter. As to the theoretical clone, if it's a "human" being, then the sin nature is still there. All have sinned means ALL.

It is an interesting argument that Jesus, who had a human mother and a Divine "father" did not get the "sin" nature, is only that, an interesting topic of discussion. Scripture clearly states Jesus, in his humanity, was tempted at all points like we are, yet he was without sin. He did not sin because he was God incarnate, not because he was a perfect "human" proving such a thing is remotely possible for any other humans.

1,269 posted on 09/06/2011 3:22:14 PM PDT by boatbums ( God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums
To be honest, I was not the first to post those verses to your query. Regarding whether this "man" meant the human race, I would answer not specifically in this passage seeing as it names the first man - Adam. However, after this first failure of "a" man the sin nature was passed down to all "men" - humanity - male and female and even neuter. As to the theoretical clone, if it's a "human" being, then the sin nature is still there. All have sinned means ALL.

I'd go with that. I mean what category would you put Chaz Bono in?

It is an interesting argument that Jesus, who had a human mother and a Divine "father" did not get the "sin" nature, is only that, an interesting topic of discussion. Scripture clearly states Jesus, in his humanity, was tempted at all points like we are, yet he was without sin. He did not sin because he was God incarnate, not because he was a perfect "human" proving such a thing is remotely possible for any other humans.

Of course. We have agreed here more than we have in a while.

1,309 posted on 09/06/2011 5:43:43 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move m to do so.)
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