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To: boatbums
Opposition of created or physical things to spiritual things. That's the aspect of gnosticism that I'm thinking of in this case.

The flesh is good. Genesis says God thought so.

The problem with the FALLEN flesh is it has a tendency to death, while Spirit vivifies. So Paul's opposition between flesh and spirit can be best understood ( I think, this is MY deal) as an opposition between the dying aspect of us and the coming to life aspect.

The way Paul talks about Baptism is that it is dying and being buried (which is why when I'm pope we're going back to full immersion) AND resurrection. Thereafter the 'tension' is between the old me that died and the new me (yet not I, but Christ lives in me) that is coming to life.

As that comrehensible? IF it is, then it is gnostic to overstress the opposition, to think that the flesh is icky or bad.

That kind of thing.

1,261 posted on 09/06/2011 2:55:33 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

You’re really on a roll tonight.


1,275 posted on 09/06/2011 3:40:04 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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