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To: RnMomof7; metmom; Judith Anne; Cronos; Natural Law
Only as long as you remain in Christ. If you return to living in the flesh, your wages will be death.

Saved by grace but kept by works ... Salvation by works...

Same old rationalizations. How much Jesus do you need to convince you that your eternal life depends upon the Judgement of your life? Jesus is the Judge.

Matthew 10: 32* Everyone who acknowledges me before others I will acknowledge before my heavenly Father. 33But whoever denies me before others, I will deny before my heavenly Father.s

If you turn your back on Jesus (sin), then you will be lost until you repent and plead for His mercy.

2 Timothy 2: 11This saying is trustworthy: If we have died with him we shall also live with him; i 12if we persevere we shall also reign with him. But if we deny him he will deny us.j 13If we are unfaithful he remains faithful, for he cannot deny himself.k

God is always faithful to us. It is we that are unfaithful to Him. If we remain unfaithful, then He will deny us, though.

Matthew 5: 21“You have heard that it was said to your ancestors,n ‘You shall not kill; and whoever kills will be liable to judgment.’* 22* But I say to you, whoever is angry* with his brother will be liable to judgment,o and whoever says to his brother, ‘Raqa,’ will be answerable to the Sanhedrin, and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ will be liable to fiery Gehenna. 23Therefore, if you bring your gift to the altar, and there recall that your brother has anything against you,p 24leave your gift there at the altar, go first and be reconciled with your brother, and then come and offer your gift. 25Settle with your opponent quickly while on the way to court with him.q Otherwise your opponent will hand you over to the judge, and the judge will hand you over to the guard, and you will be thrown into prison. 26Amen, I say to you, you will not be released until you have paid the last penny.

Do you think Jesus was just kidding here?

Matthew 6: 32All these things the pagans seek. Your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. 33But seek first the kingdom (of God) and his righteousness,* and all these things will be given you besides.

And if you do not seek the Kingdom of God, you will not receive it.

Matthew 7: 13* “Enter through the narrow gate;* for the gate is wide and the road broad that leads to destruction, and those who enter through it are many.j 14How narrow the gate and constricted the road that leads to life. And those who find it are few.

And those who do not look for it will not find it at all.

Matthew 6: 21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven,* but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.n 22Many will say to me on that day,o ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deeds in your name?’p 23Then I will declare to them solemnly, ‘I never knew you.* Depart from me, you evildoers.’q

Hear ye, hear ye. Jesus says that only those who do the will of the Father will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. If you do not do the will of the Father, you will not be saved. Is that enough works for you or do you need more? When will you pull your figurative head from the bowels of the Reformation and come into the light of Christ? This is Jesus and this is Paul. Not the Reformation's twisted version of Paul, but the real Paul.

117 posted on 09/03/2011 5:18:36 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move m to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; metmom; boatbums; Gamecock

Salvation by works makes God man debtor..

Rom 4:4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Mark I can not do one thing to commend me to a Holy Righteous God.. even my best efforts are sin before Him.
He is only pleases by His work ...How proud to think that in anyway we can deserve or keep that which was paid by Christ ...

There is no salvation in imagined sacraments.. or in a prophet pope or in man made tradition...

There is no salvation in law keeping..one does not go to hell because he sins..he goes because he does not have a Savior..

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:

Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

We will all stand naked before God on our judgement day.. with nothing in our hands to bring..


123 posted on 09/03/2011 5:32:27 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: MarkBsnr

Now who ate a bowl of YOPIOS for dinner?


127 posted on 09/03/2011 5:41:55 PM PDT by boatbums ( God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: MarkBsnr
mb:"God is always faithful to us. It is we that are unfaithful to Him. If we remain unfaithful, then He will deny us, though."

Wrong, Mark. That is NOT what the Scripture verse said. If we DENY Him, He will deny us. If we are unfaithful, He remains faithful.

2 Timothy 2:11 The saying is trustworthy, for: If we have died with him, we will also live with him; 12 if we endure, we will also reign with him; if we deny him, he also will deny us; 13 if we are faithless, he remains faithful— for he cannot deny himself.

And there is a huge difference between being unfaithful and denying Him. We can be unfaithful when we fall into sin, but that is not outright denying Him. It's a difference Catholics don't seem to recognize.

I'm glad that I don't serve a God who is so capricious as to award salvation based on performance to humans He knows are so fallible. Knowing that I am His child and secure in that position makes me want to serve and obey Him out of gratitude, not fear of the consequences, as I did when I was a Catholic.

133 posted on 09/03/2011 5:55:31 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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