Posted on 09/02/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by marshmallow
Minneapolis, Minnesota (CNN) –Prior to 2006, few people even knew that then-Minnesota state legislator Keith Ellison was a Muslim. Because of his English name, he said, no one thought to ask.
But five years ago, when he ran for a seat in the United States House of Representatives - a race he would go on to win - word of his religious affiliation began to spread.
“When I started running for Congress it actually took me by surprise that so many people were fascinated with me being the first Muslim in Congress,” said Ellison, a Democrat now serving his third term in the House.
“But someone said to me, ‘Look Keith, think of a person of Japanese origin running for Congress six years after Pearl Harbor–this might be a news story.’”
Though Ellison's status as the first Muslim elected to Congress is widely known, fewer are aware that he was born into a Catholic family in Detroit and was brought up attending Catholic schools.
But he said he was never comfortable with that faith.
“I just felt it was ritual and dogma,” Ellison said. “Of course, that’s not the reality of Catholicism, but it’s the reality I lived. So I just kind of lost interest and stopped going to Mass unless I was required to.”
It wasn’t until he was a student at Wayne State University in Detroit when Ellison began, “looking for other things.”
(Excerpt) Read more at religion.blogs.cnn.com ...
Did you mean to type “NOT without consequence”?
Our sins before and after our Lord comes into our lives and messes them over are part of what He bore on the crsoss. To persist in Sin is to “pile on” our crucified Lord.
Further, they weaken our will. So they compromise our ability to love and enjoy God. So they hinder our ability to enjoy heaven.
But all is covered in the precious and remitting Blood.
Rom 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
2Ti 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
2Cr 7:9 Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.
Act 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand [to be] a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
Act 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
Hbr 12:16 Lest there [be] any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
Hbr 12:17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.
Mat 27:3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
Mat 27:4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What [is that] to us? see thou [to that]. Mat 27:5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.
2Cr 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
The bible is full of stories of men that sought repentance
King Saul’s tears and confession looked genuine, but soon after he resumed his attempts to murder David (1 Samuel 24:16-22).* Saul’s second confession to David sounded equally compelling but it was also false (1 Samuel 26:21).
There are those like Lots wife that appeared to walk from the sin... but keep looking back with longing
We know that some had a human will to repent.. but just could not do it think of Esau
Hbr 12:17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.
There was NO PLACE for his “repentance”
Likewise the man Judas sought repentance, only to find it not
Mat 27:3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
Mat 27:4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What [is that] to us? see thou [to that].
Mat 27:5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.
That is the fruit of SELF repentance !
Instead the only repentance that brings forgiveness is that which GOD gives
Act 11:18 — When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, [Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
Self repentance death, God giving repentance life
The difference?
2Ti 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
Rom 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
Repentance is an act of Gods grace in a regenerated heart. It is a work of God to turn men from sin to Him .
Repentance is a grace, and must have its daily operation, as well as other graces. A true penitent must go on from faith to faith, from strength to strength; he must never stand still or turn back. True repentance is a continued spring, where the waters of godly sorrow are always flowing. ‘My sin is ever before me’.
Thomas Brooks
All men deserve to go to hell, there is not one man or woman that deserves to be saved.
All men are sinners and no man can ever deserve to stand in His presence.
We are born in sin and man can never solve the sin problem by our own works or rituals. Only God can in His mercy save us.
So what divides those in heaven and those in hell is not sin, for all men are sinners. It is only the grace and mercy of God thru Christ that saves.
Undeserved , unearned mercy. Heaven will be full of sinners, just as hell will be. The difference is that they have a Savior, one that did what they could never do, keep the law perfectly and then impute that righteousness to the saved. We have a Savior that took the punishment we deserve and took the full wrath of God on our behalf.
He has redeemed us, bought us with a price, so we are no longer our own, but we are His. THAT is what separates those that will bun in hell and those that will be in heaven, Gods grace!
Unfortunately unregenerate men do not understand scripture Judith
They are from Hebrews 13. Do you reject that they are Holy Scripture?
So then you deny the doctrine of your own church?
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God has ALREADY forgiven me, don’t you get that?
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So you don’t ask forgiveness, you assume it? You don’t say I am so sorry for having offended you, God?
Is that it?
That does not contradict my personal belief nor my Catholic faith. What is your problem, then, with the Church?
"And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath He quickened together with Him, HAVING FORGIVEN YOU ALL TRESPASSES. Col. 2:13. All means all. Not some, not ones that are confessed or repented of, it means ALL. And if you are saved by the blood of Christ, ALL of your sins have been forgiven.
My argument attempts only one thing: to deal with the “all have sinned,” argument.
Talking about random additions is, strictly speaking irrelevant.
Paul doesn’t have to be lying. He just has not to be speaking with logical precision, something people do “all the time.”. (All the time here obviously means “often.”)
To structure a reductio you have to consider all the choices. Technical precision is, by my reasoning, out because of Jesus. Lying is out because of the inspiration of Scripture. Casual rhetoric isn’t lying.
This is the last time I'm going to play this game. Of COURSE Hebrews 13 is Holy Scripture. It is in God's word. It is Holy Scripture.
Are you saying that anything Paul did NOT write isn't Holy Scripture?
Okay, I have another question.
Was this something you discerned on your own or is this what you have been taught in your church?
Again, I’m be interested to hear you tell God that YOU KNOW that all your sins are forgiven.
Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ And I will tell them plainly, depart from me you evildoers!
Yes, I did. Thank you. FR has a good spell checker, but the brainfart checker is not yet operable.
Wah! I don't want to bun in hell!
Then, if that’s Holy Scirpture, why do you not think they are part of Christ’s Law for you?
Not in the slightest.
Calvin is very good on the contrition of the damned, IIRC.
I STILL don’t want to bun in hell.
Taken in context, it says all have sinned and have forgiveness available to them through Jesus. That does by default, preclude Jesus from being part of that ALL, since Jesus did not have a human father like the rest of mankind does and he is the one doing the saving.
Everyone human being other than Jesus is part of that *all* and that is given by the context.
If there were any exceptions to that, they were not indicated and so cannot be reasonably presumed.
I will save your apology to be used for some offense to be named later ... :-)
"Serious transgressions, such as violations of the law of chastity, may jeopardize a person’s membership in the Mormon Church. Therefore, such sins need to be confessed to both the Lord and His priesthood representatives in the Church."
I got the "creeps" from even going to that site so you are welcome to find out about what the others teach about confession and forgiveness if you're interested.
Believe it or not, it’s in a book. Called THE BIBLE
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