Posted on 09/02/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by marshmallow
Minneapolis, Minnesota (CNN) –Prior to 2006, few people even knew that then-Minnesota state legislator Keith Ellison was a Muslim. Because of his English name, he said, no one thought to ask.
But five years ago, when he ran for a seat in the United States House of Representatives - a race he would go on to win - word of his religious affiliation began to spread.
“When I started running for Congress it actually took me by surprise that so many people were fascinated with me being the first Muslim in Congress,” said Ellison, a Democrat now serving his third term in the House.
“But someone said to me, ‘Look Keith, think of a person of Japanese origin running for Congress six years after Pearl Harbor–this might be a news story.’”
Though Ellison's status as the first Muslim elected to Congress is widely known, fewer are aware that he was born into a Catholic family in Detroit and was brought up attending Catholic schools.
But he said he was never comfortable with that faith.
“I just felt it was ritual and dogma,” Ellison said. “Of course, that’s not the reality of Catholicism, but it’s the reality I lived. So I just kind of lost interest and stopped going to Mass unless I was required to.”
It wasn’t until he was a student at Wayne State University in Detroit when Ellison began, “looking for other things.”
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I think “co”-anything would become crystal clear as to its meaning if it were applied to Co-owner. That means equal in anyone’s book. If Mary is a co-owner with Christ, the meaning would be pretty clear. Not “with Christ” but equal partners. At least in my book.
You just can’t win with some folks, van you?
Some people have to work hard to be offensive. For you it just seems to come naturally.
I find it hard to believe that some people actually place the entire responsibility for knowing the Scriptures upon those whom they have been convinced are the only ones capable of interpreting Scripture to them. They hear what they are told, read only what they are told to read and if, God forbid, they come across a verse that appears to go against what they have been told is settled dogma, rather than study it further calling on the Holy Spirit to illuminate it to them, they decide that it must not really mean what it says because "my" church cannot ever be wrong about anything. How debilitating is that? Yet, we see exactly that mindset every day on this forum.
The tired, ragged and thread-worn assertion that without an infallible magesterium there would be total theological chaos, totally disregards the work of the Holy Spirit in revealing truth to those who earnestly seek it. I rejoice in knowing that the truth of the blessed Gospel is plain to all who desire to know it. If Jesus could use poor fisherman to spread the good news, why must today require a special class of theologians to relay it?
To believe that a person or religion can actually replace Israel is ludicrous. God knows. And God keeps His promises. He promised them land, that they would be His earthly nation/agency, He gave them the Law, and they were to be a kingdom of priests to the Gentile nations and a blessing to the nations. Who has the gaul to insinuate themselves into God's plan for Israel? Those with no knowledge of what He is doing today. But a deep desire to be His favorite, the apple of His eye. The very height of arrogance and Bible ignorance. A deadly combination.
I take it that you're working hard at it, then?
But most surely if my mother is co-owner of my car by virtue of being mom her name better be on the title or pink slip or she's a passenger. And as I remind her, cars come with only one steering wheel for a reason.
Appreciate the kind words. I also appreciate that the heretics, apostates and pagans are now flaunting their beliefs, whereas they formerly denied them. It provides justification for we Christians who confronted them and formerly received only denial.
Good of you to notice that we Christians are trying to not only stop the remaining non Catholics, but trying to retrieve those who have willingly hopped in. Appreciate it.
Mark, what do you think the Judgement will be? What will we be judged by, in your opinion?
Certainly. It was settled more than a thousand years before Calvin was a gleam in the milkman's eye. You're not thinking of becoming Christian, are you?
Note that I very clearly said In proper reading of Paul, his words do not and his meaning definitely does not contradict Christ's. Yet some have used their interpretation of Paul's writings to contradict Christ's words -- as you can see by those who oppose the trinity etc.
Standing ovation. You have upped your theological postings to a great level. You understand much and are reviled for it. No matter. Your particular Judgement is of you, and not of somebody else (duh) as many of our antagonists claim.
And if you called us Bible Believing Christians, you'd be even more correct...
Umm, that'd be 'snippet believing pagans', I believe. If you do not believe that the Holy Spirit is God in the Trinitarian sense, you are not Christian by definition. Neither are you if you believe that Jesus is a subordinate or mode of God the Father. Say hi to Gaia for me.
The Great Commission is to bring the Gospel of Jesus to all nations of the world (and by extension all men). We must claim all men for Christ.
We certainly have not completed that task. If I may use you as an example...
Fortunately, you have given us the information about your Arian beliefs. Arianism was condemned at Nicea, which is why you keep going on about it.
But fortunately, we Christians find the Trinity everywhere in the scriptures...Your bosses can't dupe us...
My boss is Christ. As for Arians? You are not Christian. The entire Christian world condemned you as nonChristian. Like it or lump it, your Judgement will consist of, amongst other things, whether you refused the Faith or not after having been exposed to it.
So the fellas in your magisterium aren't too bright for putting out a poor translation???
I've got more faith in your magisterium than you do then...I think they knew exactly what they were putting out there by using co-redeemer, which is putting Mary equal with Jesus...
Paucity? We live by them in a real sense, for by the manifest transformative regeneration of the evangelical gospel the Evangelical church historically grew, and miracles abound in this camp, while far more RCs convert to it than the reverse, mainly due to the spiritual lack in Rome.
Testimony from one RC thread:
MaryandJoseph:
My 13 year old son’s friend (a baptist and Great kid) attends a church with incredible youth involvement and activities designed to keep the young people “ALIVE WITH THE FAITH” and IT WORKS!!!! Tons of pressure on my son because our parish is “flatlined” when it comes to youth. As a side note to this, I allowed him to attend one evening program at his friends church and when he came home, he was excited about what he read in the bible and what it meant in his life (he NEVER once had to bring a bible with him to religious ed. nor did they ever read from scripture)
ttp://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=578988
So you are saying that none of the Apostles, who knew and followed Christ, wrote any of the books of the New Testament?
Follow the words as written. A generation consisted of about 20 years in NT times. I'm sorry if it's simple.
Yet trying to determine what one precisely considers official teaching can be difficult.
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