[NYer]

To the above, I would like to add this link.

Peter and the Papacy

[hummingbird]

Thanks for post and all of the links, NYer!

Never thought through the words “prime minister” before and where “prime minister” might have come from.

Fascinating post! <><

[1forall]

No disrespect meant to those that want to worship Jesus as a Catholic does but to me, this:

They are fathers (“pope” means “papa”) who hold a unique office for one reason: they were called by Christ to hold the keys of the household of God.

doesn't jibe with this:

Matt 23:8 “But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have only one Master and you are all brothers. 9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10 Nor are you to be called ‘teacher,’ for you have one Teacher, the Christ

Not only the Pope but Priests (or Mary) standing between Jesus and me are also off my list because:

1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

[thatjoeguy]

I have no wish to debate since I stopped reading after the first sentence regarding the Old Testament background. Using one king’s cabinet makeup (there is no proof that “and his successors” as you’ve put it, ever followed his example) to defend the position of the papacy is a stretch and extremely weak at best.
Furthermore his cabinet dealt with ruling a nation and had nothing to do with worship and sacrifices to God as that fell to the tribe of Levi and the Temple he built.

[narses]

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[ColdSteelTalon]

I have respect for people who want to worship as they will but I could never become a member of the Catholic Church. It has the blood of too many on its hands. Too many burnings at the stake. Too much political intrigue.

Please understand that this is not against Catholic people but the Church leadership itself. The Catholic church is a prime example why governments should never be controlled by a Church.

And all of this is aside from the doctrinal differences I have with the Church.

[johngrace]

Good reading materials. Excellent.

[Rashputin]

Good stuff. Scripture clearly tells us who the author of confusion is and anyone who looks at the non-Catholic community can see that it's a mass of confusion. Christ gave Peter a new name for a reason, not on a whim or so he could make a joke about big rocks and little rocks. Without the authority of a priesthood and an earthly prime minister for His Church, there is no limit to the number of ways folks can reinterpret, redefine terms, remove from context, and otherwise rationalize whatever they want to do as what they should be doing. The Holy Spirit for comfort and individual guidance and the priesthood for education, correction, confession, and most importantly to bring us the Eucharist makes perfect sense. The main reason it's difficult for a lot of people to accept boils down to personal pride in being the final authority in all matters which frees an individual from bearing any cross other than the cross of minor inconvenience.

Eve began her slide into sin by misquoting what she had been told to do and then falling for the lie that she could know all things and interpret both good and evil for herself. Just as with Eve, the sins we see running rampant in traditional non-Catholic churches (homosexual pastors, homosexual marriage, accepting abortion & birth control, ...) all begin from the same thing, individual interpretation that ends up being individual permission to bear no cross and to not follow Christ if doing so gets in the way of making a buck or having a good time.

Taking up the cross and following Christ begins with accepting the burden of not being the final authority on all matters of faith and morals. Anyone who is dedicated to Sola Yourselfa needs to consider the fact that Christ took the role of the Jewish priesthood very seriously and instructed his followers to obey them but not to emulate them. That's not the sort of thing He would say if He was the beginning of some new sort of anarchy founded on individual interpretation based on personal understanding.

Regards

[Coleus]

I just saw dr. scott hahn talk about Isa 22 on the show “our Father’s plan”...