- They used to hide in secret societies - today it's out in the open.
Posted on 08/19/2011 7:16:09 AM PDT by marshmallow
I am sure this will be happening in Madrid as it did in London.
Richard Dawkins brought at least one laspsed Catholic back to the Church during the Papal visit to the UK. She saw the the anti-Pope snarling mob led by Dawkins and Tatchel, with their plastic devil horns and inflated condoms, sex "toys" and angry faces and she saw the sheer joy of those cheering the Pope and the banners carried by the enthusiastic youth. She said it wasn't about arguments, it was about faces. Dawkins & co. glaring and hopeless, those who were there cheering the Pope full of hope and smiling - anger and joy, hate and love.
For her it was the contrast between two worlds, signified by the Pope and Dawkins, faith and faithlessness, hope and hopelessness, the spiritual and the material, light and darkness.
The same two worlds meet in Madrid, they will meet in Dublin next year in the Eucharistic Congress. There is no room for dialogue, there is no common language, there is only contrast. Ultimately this is an apocalyptic battle between Life and Death.
There are two worlds, two cultures that are irreconcilable. I think that it is very interesting that in Madrid as in London those who are anti manifest their opposition do so under the guise of being against the cost but actually so much of the opposition seems to revolve around sex and sexuality.
I doubt there will ever be a true equilibrium, just movement.
I do not believe that anything can happen that is not intended by God.
Simple.
Kill the ones who want a war.
Preferably, by waging war against them.
Of course not, people won't believe the same. And of course it's unbalanced to have only one side of something....... even about the sanctity of human life.
You see, there will always be two sides: Evil, and good. Evil will always hate life, and truth, and goodness.
So there's your balance, stu!
Right, that’s what I was trying to tell Mr. Mallow.
If I decide to rape, torture and murder somebody today, on the spur of the moment, does that mean that God wants me to do it? I doubt that the claim that "God made me do it" will carry much weight either with the judge here in the courtroom or with the Judge in Heaven.
To balance your effort, I was trying to REMOVE that very thought from Mr. Mallow.
No, it simply means you are part of a Flash Mob.
Isn't sin, by definition, something contrary to the Divine will? Isn't it therefore a contradiction for God to intend sin? Doesn't believing that God intends sin make the concept of "sin" meaningless?
I really do not know if God wants you to, but He certainly created you knowing you would do it, right?
You’re right, that is not a very convincing plea for the courts here on earth. I cannot say what happens after death.
I have no idea what God intends, but I do believe that He knows what we will do in our lifetimes.
I believe that is our human definition, as for God, I do not know His definition or if He even has one. He may look at the things we do here on earth completely differently.
No, it simply means you are part of a Flash Mob.
There's nothing new under the sun. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_mob:
"In 1973, the story "Flash Crowd" by Larry Niven described a concept similar to flash mobs.[19] With the invention of popular and very inexpensive teleportation, an argument at a shopping mall – which happens to be covered by a news crew – quickly swells into a riot. In the story, broadcast coverage attracts the attention of other people, who use the widely available technology of the teleportation booth to swarm first that event – thus intensifying the riot – and then other events as they happen. Commenting on the social impact of such mobs, one character (articulating the police view) says, "We call them flash crowds, and we watch for them." In related short stories, they are named as a prime location for illegal activities (such as pickpocketing and looting) to take place."
The Church Fathers certainly wrestled with the concept of foreknowledge, but only Augustine wandered over to the predestination of the saints. Calvin, of course, took it a step further.
You’re right, that is not a very convincing plea for the courts here on earth. I cannot say what happens after death.
Hebrews 9: 27Just as it is appointed that human beings die once, and after this the judgment,t 28so also Christ, offered once to take away the sins of many,* will appear a second time, not to take away sin but to bring salvation to those who eagerly await him.u
I still cannot say what happens after death.
That contradicts what you said in #22, where you said that nothing happens except what God intends. If #22 is correct, then you do know at least part of what God intends: it's what happens.
I do believe that He knows what we will do in our lifetimes.
And you're absolutely right about that. But knowing about something isn't the same as intending it.
I would agree with you if you said that everything that happens, happens either because God permits it or because He positively wills (that is, intends) it. The "permits" clause is required, at the very least, because God cannot intend for us to commit sin.
Please reread #22. I said I didn’t believe, not that I actually know. Of course I can’t know. You’re very blessed to actually know so much.
PLacemark.
“There´s an old saying that all heresy begins below the belt. And if you´ll look at most heresies, you´ll find that this is true.”
I made this shocking discovery without knowing about the heresies. I was doing some research on a specific individual and a specific event which tracked back to secret societies. An amazing trail which I’m still on...
- They used to hide in secret societies - today it's out in the open.
That picture got front page in one of the Spanish newspapers.
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