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To: metmom

“Nobody can receive grace to enable a spiritual act from another human being. It comes from God alone.”

So Jesus was a liar when he told Peter, “whatsoever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven?”

Seems pretty clear to me that Christ chose to endow the apostles with the authority to forgive sins.


839 posted on 08/25/2011 2:44:17 AM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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To: BenKenobi

“So Jesus was a liar when he told Peter, “whatsoever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven?”

The first problem with your statement is that wasn’t what Jesus said. The translators have the tenses off and that changes the whole meaning.


840 posted on 08/25/2011 4:02:12 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: BenKenobi; metmom

Distinguo: There’s coming FROM, and there’s coming THROUGH.


847 posted on 08/25/2011 4:41:32 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: BenKenobi; count-your-change; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; ...

Translation issues aside, even if that was the case, the apostles are all dead now.

And tell me, since no other Catholic has, that since Jesus also said *freely you have received, freely give*, what kind of man would refuse to forgive someone who came to him and confessed his sins?

And what about 1 John 1:9 where John says, “9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. “.

You know, John was one of the apostles to whom the power of binding and loosing was given. Looks here like he gave a blanket loosing of sin by stating that God WILL forgive anyone who confesses. And some priest is going to override God?

I don’t think so.


868 posted on 08/25/2011 6:46:58 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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