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To: metmom; caww; Iscool; bkaycee
My children are my children regardless of what they do and nothing will ever keep me from loving them or cause me to disown them. They may break my heart some day by their behavior but I will not disown them.

And even if they did do something that, you in your humanness, caused you to disown them, they can never become unborn to you. They will always share your DNA and will forever be your biological offspring. With God, we are born into his family when we trust in Jesus Christ and receive him as our savior. We are indwelt with "spiritual DNA", his Holy Spirit, whereby we are sealed until the day we are redeemed in Heaven with him. There is nothing we CAN do to become unborn again.

Those who insist that we can wiggle out of his hand - the hand that Jesus said no one can pluck us out of or that he will never cast us out of - completely miss the point that he is holding onto us, we are not holding onto him. If we are born again/from above, then we cannot lose that condition and, if we could, then there would have to be reborn agains, re-reborn agains, re-re-reborn agains, etc. and there is nothing Scripturally that even comes close to saying that can happen. We can have the assurance of our salvation because that is how God INTENDS for us to live, not as scared step-kids or adoptees who can never be sure they will be kept in the family, but as true sons and daughters of the Most High, heirs of God and joint heirs of Jesus Christ - based on HIS grace and not of ourselves.

170 posted on 08/20/2011 7:46:10 PM PDT by boatbums ( God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

Preach it, sister!!!!!!!!!


175 posted on 08/20/2011 8:07:16 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: boatbums

Fabulous post Boatbums....What a Savior we have indeed! Blessed assurnace...nothing can compare to that certainty.


176 posted on 08/20/2011 8:08:34 PM PDT by caww
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To: boatbums
Those who insist that we can wiggle out of his hand - the hand that Jesus said no one can pluck us out of or that he will never cast us out of - completely miss the point that he is holding onto us, we are not holding onto him.

I agree that in eternal security is real. It is only be realized in the Spirit. I believe the flesh can create an eternal security idol however IMHO.

Idols are insidious.

200 posted on 08/21/2011 2:56:01 AM PDT by marbren (I do not know but, Thank God, God knows)
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To: boatbums

Have you read Kierkegaard’s _Works of Love_? Good stuff.

Here are some questions. If they are poorly formed, okay. That’s data too:

(1) Do you have to Go to heaven if you don’t want to?

(2) If someone has a “born again” moment, prays the sinner’s prayer, invites Jesus as Lord into his heart and his life. And then has doubts, is he saved?


234 posted on 08/21/2011 10:48:42 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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