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To: MarkBsnr
>> Our salvation is conditional. Jesus guarantees his offer to us. It is up to us to accept it. We have the hope of Paul; but if we do not persevere until the end, we will fall short and will fail.<<

“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day.” John 6:44

The Greek word translated “draw” is helkuo which means to drag (literally or figuratively).

Helkuo: to draw, drag off http://www.searchgodsword.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=1670

The same word is used in other verses.

In John 21:6 where they are pulling a heavy net full of fish.
In John 8:10 where Peter is drawing his sword.
In Acts 16:19 where Paul and Silas being dragged into the marketplace before the rulers.
Was it “up to” the fish being dragged in, or the sword? How about Paul and Silas? Was it “up to them”? Knowing what the words mean is rather “illuminating” I would say.

1,319 posted on 08/29/2011 7:44:34 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear
In John 21:6 where they are pulling a heavy net full of fish.

In John 8:10 where Peter is drawing his sword. In Acts 16:19 where Paul and Silas being dragged into the marketplace before the rulers.

Was it “up to” the fish being dragged in, or the sword? How about Paul and Silas? Was it “up to them”? Knowing what the words mean is rather “illuminating” I would say.

Ever caught a fish that got away? Acts 16: 40When they had come out of the prison, they went to Lydia’s house where they saw and encouraged the brothers, and then they left.

Knowing Scripture and life both is just as illuminating.

1,338 posted on 08/29/2011 6:00:17 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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