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To: Mad Dawg
When I come to heaven I will say, "Take what is yours; I have nothing of my own to give you, gracious Lord. I am unprofitable, but full of wonder, love, and gratitude, which you, in your astounding generosity gave me to feel and enjoy."

Wonderfully said. So, may I conclude that, unlike your fellow few on this forum, you assert you ARE saved by the grace of God? Can I, or anyone else, conclude that you believe we can know we have eternal life right now? Because it sounds to me like you believe the Gospel of salvation by grace through faith alone (though it is not a faith which is alone). When those who condemn us for the "sin of presumption" by saying we believe God saves us by his grace and we KNOW we have eternal life, do you stand with us in asserting this IS our actual standing in Christ?

1,250 posted on 08/27/2011 5:04:11 PM PDT by boatbums ( God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums
do you stand with us in asserting this IS our actual standing in Christ?

Wow. You're going to make me research this aren't you?

In all seriositude, I've been fine with saying Dominic, Terese, many martyrs, and I suppose others have died with confidence in God's love. And as I have said many times, both Dominic and Terese actually spoke about how they would be more helpful in heaven than on earth.

How to make a systematic statement is harder for me.

Lewis's Aslan would say that's somebody else's story.

1,259 posted on 08/27/2011 7:14:58 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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