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To: CynicalBear; boatbums; Natural Law
You poor, poor people. Following the religious teachings of an earthly organization has blinded you. We aren’t in this flesh “pure enough” nor will we ever be.

That's what boatbums said in the post that you replied to. Who is wrong, you or her? Based upon what authority?

When we stand before the throne of the Father we go “in Jesus name” and the Father sees Jesus, not our earthly filth.

I see. So this is a mock trial and the Judgement proclaimed by Jesus and Paul and Peter is a sham. Interesting Gnosticism.

We have already been forgiven of all of our sins and He has removed them from us “as far as the East is from the West.

In other words your belief is the same as these guys:

They believed that they would be taken up to the gods guaranteed if they had their hearts ripped out when they were still alive. You guys believe that your salvation is guaranteed by having Jesus pay the price and the limo ride will just pull up to your door. What a neat idea. It is not Christian but neat.

Once you who profess faith in the RCC realize the peace and freedom a true Spirit filled follower of Christ has you will understand the joy.

We've been realizing what truly following Christ means for 2000 years. It isn't what various Protestants invent every year or so.

1,019 posted on 08/26/2011 4:32:54 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; CynicalBear; boatbums; UriÂ’el-2012; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; ...

We are not pure enough in the to see God. It’s Scriptural. You know, the stuff the Catholic claims it wrote. Were they wrong after all?

1 Corinthians 15:35-57

35But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body do they come?” 36You foolish person! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 37And what you sow is not the body that is to be, but a bare kernel, perhaps of wheat or of some other grain. 38But God gives it a body as he has chosen, and to each kind of seed its own body. 39For not all flesh is the same, but there is one kind for humans, another for animals, another for birds, and another for fish. 40There are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is of one kind, and the glory of the earthly is of another. 41There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory.

42 So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable; what is raised is imperishable. 43It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised in power. 44It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46But it is not the spiritual that is first but the natural, and then the spiritual. 47 The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven. 48As was the man of dust, so also are those who are of the dust, and as is the man of heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. 49Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven.
Mystery and Victory
50I tell you this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. 53For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality. 54When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written:

“Death is swallowed up in victory.” 55 “O death, where is your victory?
O death, where is your sting?”

56The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 57But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.


1,030 posted on 08/26/2011 5:35:11 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: MarkBsnr; CynicalBear; UriÂ’el-2012; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; ...

A Catholic criticizing another for human sacrifice when they claim they offer up Jesus for their sines themselves, or by a priest?

Do you not see the irony in that?


1,032 posted on 08/26/2011 5:37:45 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: MarkBsnr; CynicalBear; UriÂ’el-2012; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; ...

Do you even have the foggiest clue what *forgiveness* means?


1,035 posted on 08/26/2011 5:40:54 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: MarkBsnr; boatbums; Natural Law
>>So this is a mock trial and the Judgement proclaimed by Jesus and Paul and Peter is a sham.<<

Romans 5:6-10 says, "For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His love toward us, in that, while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life".

1 John 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

"For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him" (2 Corinthians 5:21).

Isaiah 53:5-6 "But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement for our peace was upon Him, and by His stripes we are healed....and the Lord laid on Him the iniquity of us all."

I Peter 2:24, "Who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness: by whose stripes you were healed."

If Christ died for our sins, took our sins upon Him, and made us righteous before God could you tell me what we will be judged for? Do you believe that Jesus death and on the cross was not good enough?

1,038 posted on 08/26/2011 5:44:25 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: MarkBsnr
You guys believe that your salvation is guaranteed by having Jesus pay the price and the limo ride will just pull up to your door. What a neat idea. It is not Christian but neat.

Well certainly it's Christian...People have been posting scripture after scripture after scripture showing you just that...

I'm not surprised that you guys don't know how that works, or why that works...

Never rode in a Limo...That's going to be fun...

1,052 posted on 08/26/2011 6:30:34 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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