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To: Pessimist
I'll charitably assume a socialist reporter selectively quoted the Pope's words to make the point he wanted to make. Nevertheless, the Founding Fathers were on to this sort of thing long ago:

"What influence in fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had on civil society? In many instances they have been upholding the thrones of political tyranny. In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy." -- James Madison

35 posted on 08/18/2011 7:31:31 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Please see post number 38. Thank-you.


39 posted on 08/18/2011 7:57:58 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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