Posted on 08/17/2011 5:15:20 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
Not everyone during the Millennial Reign will turn against Christ.
It will be a choice, just as it is now. But those people will have absolutely no excuse then because they have lived during a time when there was no curse on the earth, and every need man can have is provided for.
People will have to choose to rebel against Christ at that time, just like now. And not everyone will.
Sorry, I don't see the OT saints.
Then you deny all the Scriptures provided that prove that you are wrong?
“As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance.”
We see that Daniel, an OT saint, is being told that he will rest, then rise at the end of days.
When is the end of days? I guess it depends on how we are going to define "days". Because at the end of the Tribulation, man and Satan are no longer in control, and because many of the OT saints will have exalted positions in Christ's Millennial Kingdom, I guess we have to take "the end of days" as meaning the end of the rule of man.
If the OT Jewish saints are going to be ruling over both Jews and Gentiles during the thousand-year reign, as Scripture teaches, then they have to have been resurrected before then, and the only time they can get those bodies is right after the Tribulation and right before the Millennial Reign begins since they are not present on earth during the Tribulation. The Tribulation martyrs are raised to receive the bodies they will need to exist in the Kingdom, and it is at that time, "at the end of days", that the OT Jewish saints will be raised as well.
Makes a lot of sense. Thank you, very much!
Those who are saved during the Trib but killed for their testimony will be raised up with glorified bodies and will go into the Millenium. Those who were saved during the Tribulation and escaped death and who go into the millennium with their human bodies, will be able to stay alive by going to the Tree of Life:
Revelation 2:7 "Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God."
Revelation 22:2 "down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations."
Revelation 22:14 "“Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city."
The unbelievers who were taken out of the earth after the tribulation (not going into the Millennium), will be the ones who take part in the "second resurrection" along with all the unsaved that have ever lived. All the unsaved will be in Sheol/Hades, until Hell is finally created at the end of the millennium and Satan is finally, and forever cast into the Lake of Fire - the Second Resurrection.
Revelation 20
The Thousand Years
And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time. 4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
Satan’s Doom
7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
The Dead Are Judged
11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
I agree with you about it being an interesting topic to discuss. We do not know ALL nor EVERYTHING about the end-times but can know what the Lord has revealed to us. I disagree with some people who make this subject a life or death doctrine or who condemn others just because they don't understand things the way they do. One day we WILL know as we are known, but in the meantime, we can praise our Savior Jesus Christ who came into the world to save us and we, who believe in him, can know we have eternal life because God never lies. Thanks for the thread!
To what post in this thread are you referring?
That’s not in this thread. What thread are you talking about?
I am fretting a bit because of this interesting article. Not too bad, no worries about me, just those who miss the rapture. I have wondered what happens to us all in eternity, after the millennium, and we can only speculate. I do not know but, Thank God, God knows. The OP says the age of grace ends with the rapture.
People will have to choose to rebel against Christ at that time
Isn't the choice we have more resisting the Holy Spirit in this age of Grace? The work of Grace is all God nothing to do with us. The millennium may not be the age of grace but be more like OT times. Christ is not born in us but visible to us. Blessed are those who have not seen and believe?
I tend to agree that OT saints, maybe the rest of them, and trib saints are resurrected at the end of the tribulation. The rapture is only about the church. I am getting anal about drawing a line between Israel and the Church. IMHO.
You can possibly argue when do they get their glorified bodies, but there's a place in heaven for them and, in their song, they anticipate Christ's return and ultimate victory over evil.
Really? How about Rev.3:10 "Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth." And that's just one that popped in my mind instantly.
Are you on this Caucus tread because you are dispensational but do not hold to a pre trib rapture? Is there a millennium in your view?
Now new speculation, Is the book of Life only for those in the millennium? Also, is the only physical death during the millennium found in the temple sacrifices which of course point to what Our Lord Jesus Christ endured?
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