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To: spirited irish
[ Man is man and will never become other than man.]

So you mean... man is flesh and will remain flesh for eternity?..
Heaven, whatever that is, is a paradise of flesh?..
and Hell is a prison of flesh?..

Jesus is flesh.?, you and I are flesh.?.. and thats just the way it “IS”?..

Interesting... my thought is you might need a BIGGER God..
My God is not fleshly.. if yours is..... then it is..

I'm not trying to steal away a fleshly God from fleshly people..

It appears to me that Jesus was attempting to "WEAN" people away from a fleshly identity to a spiritual identity..

And did.. sometimes, with a few, somewhat...

16 posted on 07/19/2011 2:36:30 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: hosepipe

John 4:23 “But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such as these to worship him. 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”


17 posted on 07/19/2011 2:48:50 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: hosepipe

So you mean... man is flesh and will remain flesh for eternity?..
Heaven, whatever that is, is a paradise of flesh?..
and Hell is a prison of flesh?..

Spirited: God the Father likes matter for He created it, which of course includes the bodies in which our souls are embedded. After He rose from the dead, Jesus “modeled” for us the resurrection body all of us will have one day after all things have been made new, which includes this earth. It will be made new.

Gnosticism rather than Christian theism is dominant today. Your disparaging remarks regarding “flesh” are very Gnostic.
Gnostics hated Yahweh to the extent of consigning Him to hell. In His place they exalted the Devil.


20 posted on 07/19/2011 3:33:39 PM PDT by spirited irish
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