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To: SeekAndFind

There are a lot of great resources on this. I’m not one of them. Did you know there was a lesbian working with the NIV translators? Her job was to make sure the style made sense to modern readers.
Matthew 17:21 KJB This kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

Matthew 17:21 NIV Omitted

There are a lot of these.

http://av1611.com/kjbp/charts/various.html
http://av1611.com/kjbp/charts/themagicmarker.html

But aside from all of that you have to ask, who benefits most from changing the Word of God? If the KJB is the Word of God, why change it, if not, God is a liar. The originals? There are no originals.

If Christianity is in steep decline, as evidence by this article, could it be that we’ve accepted a corrupt revelation? If we have accepted a corrupt revelation, what would have been the consequence and would it be any different from what we’re seeing? Why, instead of Moody, Sunday, Spurgeon, Hudson Taylor, William Carey, Judson and Bob Jones do we have TD Jakes, Osteen, Kirk Cameron, Franklin Graham, and Bob Jones III? What changed and why?


38 posted on 07/18/2011 2:18:13 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod

RE: Did you know there was a lesbian working with the NIV translators? Her job was to make sure the style made sense to modern readers.


1) Did you know that there was a member of the KJV Westminster Hebrew translating committee by the name of Richard “Dutch” Thomson? He was known as a “’debauched drunken English Dutchman who seldom went to bed one night sober’”

Yet, I do not doubt that inspite of the fact that he had this sinful weakness, the KJV was a splendid translation.

2) Where in the NIV do we have this lesbians influence when it comes to accepting the homosexual lifestyle?

Show me the specific chapter and verse because I READ the NIV and just like the KJV, it is pretty clear to me :

““Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable. “ (Leviticus 18:22)

By Lesbian, I believe you are referring to Virginia Ramey Mollenkott.

The problem was, Mollenkott once moved in evangelical circles and gave every impression of being one herself. But she started questioning the biblical teachings on the roles of men and women, and eventually apostatized completely.

Her slippery slide is documented by Mary A. Kassian in her excellent book “The Feminist Gospel : The Movement to Unite Feminism With the Church”. So the NIV hired her as a stylistic consultant in good faith, and dropped her when her heresy became known.

To show that her views didn’t influence the KJV on moral issues, and that the idea that the NIV is soft on homosexuality is arrant nonsense, see this extract from Romans 1:24-28

“Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator — who is forever praised. Amen.

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.

Here, homosexual acts are called:

* sinful desires of their hearts

* sexual impurity

* degrading of their bodies

* shameful lusts

* unnatural relations

* indecent acts

* perversion

* the result of a depraved mind that’s rejected the knowledge of God.

I don’t see how this lesbian had any influence on the NIV at all.


39 posted on 07/18/2011 2:37:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: demshateGod

“Why, instead of Moody, Sunday, Spurgeon, Hudson Taylor, William Carey, Judson and Bob Jones do we have TD Jakes, Osteen, Kirk Cameron, Franklin Graham, and Bob Jones III?”

I would NOT lump Kirk Cameron in with Jakes or Osteen. I’m very familiar with him, his work, his faith and family values, and the great sacrifices he’s made as an adult in his acting career to remain true to his faith and principles. Ditto for his wife who gave hers up to raise their children. They’re loving parents with a sweet family. His public debates with atheists can be seen all over youube. He put a lot of his own money into the Left Behind movies based on the book series by Jerry Jenkins and Dr. Tim LeHaye about the Tribulation and prophecies of Revelations.

Unlike the generic Joel Osteen and T.D. Jakes, Kirk Cameron is unafraid to talk about Christ as Savior, and does so often. He’s talked honestly about his immaturity as an adolescent actor, and has since developed into a fine Christian man.


44 posted on 07/18/2011 6:43:46 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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