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Know Mormons' beliefs before voting for them
WyomingTribuneEagle ^ | July 9, 2011 | Dion Clark

Posted on 07/16/2011 7:24:33 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

In response to whether the public should vote for a Mormon for president, one should know what beliefs a candidate had.

Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman have Mormon roots and they have been vague about their beliefs and loyalty to the LDS church.

Mormon theology includes ideas like their priesthood brethren will become the government leaders, or future kings of the world, in a globalized theocracy, and that their male leaders will take over when a second coming of Christ occurs. They believe they are the pre-ordained leaders to rule over a coming theocratic kingdom.

Worthy Mormon males are temple attending, dressing in white with special learned handshakes, altar rituals, Masonic rites and gestures and do secretive activities different from normal society.

They believe they are the future gods of new worlds in a life after this one. They follow prophets with ever-changing doctrine and change their fictional "Book of Mormon" every time it is found to be un-politically correct.

Their women are taught they are good for breeding, to have large families.

A member of this cult is loyal to its church leaders and to whatever their modern prophets tell them is gospel, which changes at their will.

They claim to be Christian, but Mormon polytheism of many gods/goddesses in a hereafter, rituals that must be performed in their temples, garment wearing and works (not grace) that saves a person is different ideology.

It is debatable whether Mormons are Christians, and they have other scriptures special to Mormonism written by their leaders, not just the New Testament, like their Doctrine and Covenants and Book of Mormon.

To learn about them and their practices, beliefs and personal character will help us determine whether they are the future leaders of Americans. Or are they really stuck in their controversial past?


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Other Christian; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: beck; elections; glennbeck; inman; lds; mormon; romney; theocracy
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Colofornian

I do wish someone would have asked the religion question, because I think it would be fascinating.

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I would have too. I know there was a freeper who wrote a book on Reid and his Mormon connections, but I haven’t seen him on in awhile. Perhaps, Colo would know the title, author or freeper name.

There is also a possibility that the media was playing up the Mormon division in the race. Before the election, to make Reid not appear to conservative and after to appear that Reid won on his own. Truth is we will never know how many LDS voted for Reid. We just know he won, sadly.


421 posted on 07/18/2011 11:25:46 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: CharlesWayneCT

What’s the point of having a religion if you don’t believe in it enough to stand up for it?

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That was my thought. One of the things that got me to start questioning Mormonism was my preparing to go on a Mormon mission.

I was taking a Mission Prep course and the first day we were given a list (Oh how I wish I had kept it) of LDS doctrines we were not to teach or discuss. These included Jesus was married and probably a polygamist, that God had a God (eternal regression), that we could become Gods ourselves, that God has at least one wife (Heavenly Mother), that Jesus would return to Missouri, among other things.

At this time I was a total believing Mormon. I couldn’t figure out why, if we were the only church who had the truth (as the LDS teach), why couldn’t we be honest and upfront about our beliefs. I asked the professor and his response startled me. He said “If we told the truth, no one would join”.

I realized shortly after that I could not serve a Mormon mission. I was not going to pay to go out for 2 years to lie to people to get them to convert. I left the church about a year later.

About lying in general about being LDS, there is this view that people will take their comments (esp about antis or in favor of Mormonism) more seriously if they pretend they are not Mormon. Also, they will lie if they feel that it will help or benefit the Mormon church.

I don’t know any Christian who will lie about their faith. I am very upfront about what I believe and my faith, I am open about it. To me, lying about your faith is denying Christ.

And Peter repented shortly after. He didn’t keep doing it to further an organization.


422 posted on 07/18/2011 11:34:38 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: CharlesWayneCT

LOL. I guess High School politics aren’t that different from regular politics after all.


423 posted on 07/18/2011 11:36:01 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: CharlesWayneCT; All
I find exit polls to be confused...I do wish someone would have asked the religion question, because I think it would be fascinating.

Well, rather than simply wait for the exit polls of the next election, I'm weighing in on the "religion" matter here and now...as to how much Mormon leaders will "weigh in" on a Mormon POTUS.

New thread up: CNN blog reports from anti-Mormon Bizarro-Land [Real Mormonism]

424 posted on 07/18/2011 11:42:58 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mormon mishies should ask propects to pray about Smith's 'first vision,' NOT the word-lifted BoM!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; MARTIAL MONK

Source MM? I would like to analyze that a bit more.

Because I still am not seeing Mormons not voting for Reid.


425 posted on 07/18/2011 11:47:48 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: starlifter

Several posts on this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2746386/posts


426 posted on 07/18/2011 11:53:11 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: starlifter

And this thread...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2745254/posts

and this thread...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2745119/posts

and this thread...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2744258/posts


427 posted on 07/18/2011 11:55:05 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Dr. Sivana
Saw a mormon accidentally get squeezed in a cattle chute...and he yelled "Jesus Christ"!! Now one could suppose he was asking for help...but I don't think so.

Also knew a mormon...that cussed quite often. He once told me..I was stupid to quote Jesus..and to believe like I did.

And another who called big rocks in his yard..."nigger heads". His exact words...and he was a bishop within LDS, Inc.

428 posted on 07/18/2011 12:32:37 PM PDT by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: Osage Orange; Dr. Sivana

Had a mormon on this very thread call us ‘dilholes’. I’m sure he wasn’t thinking about pickles.


429 posted on 07/18/2011 12:36:15 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla

Prolly just short for Armadillo burrow!! : )


430 posted on 07/18/2011 12:47:53 PM PDT by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: reaganaut
Excellent pull of my posts relating to that trial.

But that was not the question...where did I defend her?

Please be specific...including the specific post.

Oh, wait. There aren't any.

Sorry to bother you.

431 posted on 07/18/2011 12:50:11 PM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: reaganaut
Truth is we will never know how many LDS voted for Reid.

I'd be more interested in the dead LDS vote.........

432 posted on 07/18/2011 12:51:18 PM PDT by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: starlifter

I gave you the threads, which is much more sourcing than you have given in ANY of your posts.

Several posts on each of those threads, no need to clog up this thread. Interested parties can look it up and see your defense of the baby killer and an idiotic jury who failed to do its job.

Anthony is not the topic of this thread, I only brought it up and posted the threads lest anyone think you have anything of value to say.

Now, how about we get back on the topic. Mormons and how people should know LDS doctrine before voting for them.


433 posted on 07/18/2011 1:02:57 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Godzilla; BlueMoose The problem arises when an argument started on one thread is carried over to another thread. That is flame baiting.

It is also trouble-making or stalking to follow a poster around from thread to thread waving the same post at him.

Badgering a poster on the Religion Forum by serving up a litany of his posts is "making it personal."

Repeating or excerpting previous posts relevant to the issues is ok. 57 posted on Friday, July 16, 2010 7:34:35 PM by Religion Moderator

434 posted on 07/18/2011 1:07:28 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: Osage Orange

If they add voting to the temple ceremonies by proxy, will we hear about it? Or will it be to ‘sacred’ to mention?


435 posted on 07/18/2011 1:07:28 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: BlueMoose

There was no argument on the other thread, so no baiting BM. I made a statement, she asked for proof, I provided it. We are allowed to post links from one thread to another.

But in typical LDS fashion, you have taken a response out of context and applied it incorrectly.


436 posted on 07/18/2011 1:10:07 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

This interesting. How will the votes be counted ?


437 posted on 07/18/2011 1:12:05 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: reaganaut

This interesting. How will the votes be counted ?


438 posted on 07/18/2011 1:12:16 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: reaganaut
Thank you for admitting there is no basis whatsoever to the comment that I defended Casey Anthony.

I accept your apology for lying.

May God bless you.

439 posted on 07/18/2011 1:16:24 PM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: greyfoxx39

Generally, I guess I’d rather have a Mormon who loves, and is committed to preserving, the Constituion than a Christian like Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton.

BTW, I am so NOT going to vote for Romney. Waiting for Sarah...


440 posted on 07/18/2011 1:27:49 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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