[2nd amendment mama]

Relax. Ten-to-one you are invincibly ignorant, that is, even though you think you are rejecting the Catholic Church knowingly, you have never really made the acquaintance of the Catholic Church and her teachings. You are rejecting a figment, an invention.

You are the ignorant one. You are making an argument based on assumptions that are incorrect. I was brought up in the Catholic church so....I've definitely "made the acquaintance of the church and her teachings". I left that church body for a variety of reasons, none of which I need to explain to you and I KNOW that God & Jesus know my heart and soul and know that I believe in Jesus as my personal savior. That will get me into Heaven and the House of God when my body departs this world.

[MarkBsnr]

You are the ignorant one. You are making an argument based on assumptions that are incorrect. I was brought up in the Catholic church so....I've definitely "made the acquaintance of the church and her teachings". I left that church body for a variety of reasons, none of which I need to explain to you and I KNOW that God & Jesus know my heart and soul and know that I believe in Jesus as my personal savior. That will get me into Heaven and the House of God when my body departs this world.

Sadly you appear to have bought into the easy-peasy and antiCatholic rhetoric that has lured so many Catholics away from the Faith.

[Houghton M.]

A lot of people brought up “in the Catholic Church” have not, in fact, made the acquaintance of Her teachings. I teach university students with 12 years of Catholic education and most of them are utterly ignorant of the classic claims of the Catholic Church. They are astonished when I explain them. I also warn them that now that they’ve been given the real story, they might lose their invincible ignorance—that they at least now have to check out whether what I’ve taught them is in fact the Church’s teaching or not. They are ignorant. It’s simply a fact.

I have no idea whether you were presented with the straight story or not or, if you were given the full teaching, whether it registered with you. A person can be invincibly ignorant and be sitting right in the middle of the Church today. Especially because so many priests and teachers have taken to teaching Protestantism as Catholic teaching, a lot of people not only did not get the correct teaching but they have a much harder time being open to accepting the true teaching if it is given them, because they’ve been told something else is Catholic teaching.

I have in mind things like the Catholic teaching that the Church’s teaching does not just roll with the Zeitgeist but is perennial and eternal, that doctrine develops but does not change or reverse. Or the teaching that the Church is both divine and human (most students think it’s just another sociological group because that’s what a lot of Catholic parishes are like).