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"And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." Genesis 2:16,17:. Here God commanded Adam, that HE COULD EAT anything from the garden EXCEPT FROM THE TREE OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL. If he did then the penalty was stated "in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

I assume since it states that "in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." Adam ate and died that same day. Of course this was after he had enough time during that day to name all the animals, fall asleep, get a wife, have some kids, have them grow up, etc...

No one can make me believe God created the Universe on a whim in a weeks time. God exists outside of time and space, and only uses the terms like day so that even a child can understand his intentions, not necessarily his methods.

Open your eyes look up, and see the starlight from billions of years ago, and believe God created it, and he isn't trying to fool us into believing in an old universe, it is an old universe not some recent magical place that appeared 6,000-10,000 years ago.

You are correct in that God is outside of time, but He is also outside of our limited understanding. It seems that you are assuming that God had to allow this planet to mature over billions of years, when really He could have created a fully mature earth that only appears to be very old.

We simply don’t know exactly when God made the universe, but the context of Genesis supports the literal 24 hour day interpretation.

You also are getting hung up on King James English, when it’s clear the meaning of that passage is that death would result in disobedience. Other translations make it clear that the curse of death would not happen on the very same day.

Adam ate and died that same day.

No, according to the Scriptures Adam lived 930 years. He and the human race died Spiritually that day. For further proof see Psalm 14 and 53: 2,3 and Romans 3:11-18. And through the same testimony, Adam named the animals before eating the fruit.

Also in Genesis is the First Recorded piece of human speech: Genesis 2:23 "And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man."

Not bad for the first man at that point.

>Open your eyes look up, and see the starlight from billions of years ago, and believe God created it, and he isn't trying to fool us into believing in an old universe. You are very close, the first thing created was "light".

No one can make me believe God created the Universe on a whim in a weeks time. God exists outside of time and space, and only uses the terms like day so that even a child can understand his intentions, not necessarily his methods.

You make perfect sense. Acknowledging the amazing vastness of the real universe is more truthful and spiritual than all the vain attempts to shrink reality into some small box of mindless myth and superstition.

Open your eyes look up, and see the starlight from billions of years ago, and believe God created it, and he isn't trying to fool us into believing in an old universe, it is an old universe not some recent magical place that appeared 6,000-10,000 years ago.

Your post is sensible, and out of place here among the fundamentalism. Speaking of evolution, I believe it's also quite sensible to doubt evolution, as the scientific version goes, and new species popping up only through many random mutations is something beyond doubtful. I believe there is much yet to be discovered and understood about how it all happens, but to suggest there is nothing at all to any evolutionary forces, seems just plain silly. And the idea of the earth being 6,000 or 10,000 years old, or made to look that way, is juvenile. Sorry fundies, had to say it.