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Charles Carroll, founding father and "an exemplar of Catholic and republican virtue" [Ecumenical]
InsightScoop.com ^
| on webiste July 4, 2011
| interview with Dr. Bradley J. Birzer
Posted on 07/04/2011 7:05:39 PM PDT by Salvation
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Carroll always put the needs of the res publica ahead of his own personal self interest. In fact, I couldn't find an instance in Carroll's public life where he did not always put the good of the republic ahead of his own good. He served as a model leader. What an outstanding stateman!
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posted on
07/04/2011 7:05:45 PM PDT
by
Salvation
To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...
Happy Independence Day Ping!
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posted on
07/04/2011 7:06:54 PM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Salvation
Hey , I am related to that guy, Really.
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posted on
07/04/2011 7:13:04 PM PDT
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Venturer
To: Venturer
Not everyone can say that! LOL! Wow, to have a founding father as a relative!
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posted on
07/04/2011 7:20:52 PM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Venturer
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posted on
07/04/2011 7:21:39 PM PDT
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
To: Venturer
A decendent of Charles Carroll?
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posted on
07/04/2011 7:25:18 PM PDT
by
Biggirl
("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
To: Salvation
Of course the most important thing he did was hide the treasure map on the back of the Declaration.
Oh, wait, that was a movie.
To: Venturer
Hey , I am related to that guy, Really.
Me, too. Really.
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posted on
07/04/2011 7:27:30 PM PDT
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unkus
To: Biggirl
Yes, I suppose there are a lot of us.
Generations have been born.
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posted on
07/04/2011 7:28:31 PM PDT
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Venturer
To: Venturer
Today I had heard on the local radio news an organization that is for the decendents of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence. Afterwards I looked up the organization and had posted an article about it on FR about one of the signers, a Whipple from New Hampshire who does not have direct decendents. Here is an article about Charles Carroll:
http://www.dsdi1776.com/Signers/Charles%20Carroll.html
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posted on
07/04/2011 7:29:21 PM PDT
by
Biggirl
("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
To: Biggirl
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posted on
07/04/2011 7:59:23 PM PDT
by
unkus
To: unkus
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posted on
07/04/2011 8:02:07 PM PDT
by
Biggirl
("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
To: unkus; Venturer
Maybe you are cousins or even closer?
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posted on
07/04/2011 8:04:59 PM PDT
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Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Salvation
Very distant, for certain.
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posted on
07/04/2011 8:13:05 PM PDT
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unkus
To: Biggirl
Thanks good reference. Hadn't read about Carroll much in recent years, but went through those bios of all the signers long ago.
They had a bright and shining vision of what could be and they set about doing what they could to create that future.
A note to folks with a Charles Carroll ancestry, that's not the only Catholic in the family ~ by the time the Brits set about de-establishing the Catholics in the Maryland colony there were more than enough mixed marriages (Catholic/Protestant) to allow the broader families to protect most of the estates from loss.
What you might want to look at are the Smallwood families ~ one of their number also signed the Declaration but left no progeny ~ but his relatives did. They and others are associated with the core Catholic community centered on St. Mary's Maryland. That particular community sent its own "colonies" West into Kentucky and other locations over the years ~ and many of those colonies still send their kids back to the local college.
They maintained that same pattern of mixed marriages, but always a concern for the Catholics that they not be extinguished.
I think you'll find a number of the Carroll descendants ALSO mixed up in the Smallwoods.
One of my ancestors was named Mary Ann Elizabeth Smallwood Murphy ~ and if you've ever had a nightmare tracking genealogy, looking for a particular Mary Murphy is definitely in that category. That's still one of the all time favorite American names.
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posted on
07/04/2011 8:18:40 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: muawiyah
What a shining example this man has been for the generations that followed him.
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posted on
07/04/2011 8:26:46 PM PDT
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Ciexyz
To: Salvation; Tolerance Sucks Rocks
MD ping.
Great Founders, Great MDers.
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posted on
07/04/2011 8:53:39 PM PDT
by
the OlLine Rebel
(Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
To: Salvation
His cousin, John Carroll, 1st archbishop of the USA, consecrated the United States to Mary.
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posted on
07/04/2011 8:58:54 PM PDT
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the OlLine Rebel
(Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
To: the OlLine Rebel
I didn’t make that connection. Thanks.
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posted on
07/04/2011 9:02:39 PM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Venturer
I am into genealogy. I have never seen so many people related to someone as there are to this family. Nearly every family in my tree are related to him in some way or another. Never found our just how many kids, grandkids, etc he had but there had to be many.
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07/04/2011 11:12:34 PM PDT
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MamaB
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