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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
i invite to look up the posting history of who we are talking about,

First of all I am not talking about any individual though it's apparent now that you intended just that. So read my post again without thinking about you're target and then respond accordingly and we'll see if we can communicate about 'the topic'.

I will say again ...people are angry...catholics and any other of the faithful...that more isn't being done within the catholic church leadership to stop the cover ups and dodging the criminal activity happening within "the catholic church" which is the topic of this thread..."the catholic church"

Now if you want to take on teachers...start a thread about them, as has been done before....or any other group or organization, also which has been done before. But I assure you that just because the catholic church has 'catholic' before it does not exempt it from criticism any more than any other group or organization or church, just because some of it's members continue to want to down play that it's a serious problem..which by the way is not exempt from accountability to "we the people"...or from God Himself....of which obvious He's cleaning house now, in full view of the audience, because the leadership refused and failed to do so for years.

This is the problem as I see it... many of the catholic church memebrship and leadership continuously plays the "victim" of society or of any criticism , even from it's own membership...and I simply will not be one who excludes it, and neither will others who care about the faith, and the children, and for the faithful members and all others concerned....which includes the Christ for which the church claims as their own.

18 posted on 07/01/2011 9:41:43 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
The peace of Christ be with you all.

I will say again ...people are angry...catholics and any other of the faithful...that more isn't being done within the catholic church leadership to stop the cover ups and dodging the criminal activity happening within "the catholic church" which is the topic of this thread..."the catholic church"

I wholeheartedly agree.

Yes, public school teachers are a joke, they were a joke when I was in school (usually the band directors or coaches) and they're even more so now. In the UK the sexual shenanigans of priests of the CofE have such a well earned reputation that they're practically part of the national identity. Protestant ministers in the US engaging in "counseling sessions" with adult female congregants is SO ingrained into our public consciousness that well, does NO ONE remember Hawthorne's "Scarlet Letter"?

All of this is part of our cultural heritage and for the most part we express neither surprise nor great concern except when personally impacted. But the very idea that Catholic priests are breaking their vows and engaging in sexual sins with males above and/or below the age of consent draws forth a fiery outrage in every human heart...

AND RIGHTLY SO!

The idea that bishops of the Church are covering up the scandal and in some cases even facilitating it is so outrageous as to make me long for the days of the inquisition.

We Catholics must clean our own house and more importantly be seen doing it. Bishops, priests and laity must be involved in public penance for the scourge of homosexuality that God has allowed to infiltrate His priesthood. Abusers and predators MUST be removed from public ministry. Credible accusations MUST be acted upon. Facilitators must be stripped of ecclesiastical authority.

Maybe when the priests and bishops of the Church are seen to be keeping their vows and promises the laypeople may return to keeping their own.

And on that note: I'm back.

26 posted on 07/03/2011 10:40:10 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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