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To: WhoHuhWhat
He holds to Church teaching-that the Invincibly ignorant is not an enemy of the Church- The hard core protestant that believes the reformation was necessary is an enemy of Christ and His Church
24 posted on 06/30/2011 7:31:55 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi

“The hard core protestant that believes the reformation was necessary is an enemy of Christ and His Church.”

Nonsense. Christ is my personal Savior. Is He yours? As one of His, I am part of the body of Chirst - the only Church He recognizes.


25 posted on 06/30/2011 7:36:34 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: stfassisi

From New Advent: Ignorance is said to be invincible when a person is unable to rid himself of it notwithstanding the employment of moral diligence, that is, such as under the circumstances is, morally speaking, possible and obligatory.

So, rather than bookend Invincible ignorant and hard core protestant, please let me restate my question with the above definition.

Do you claim that Pope Benedict XVI holds all Protestants to be contained in the group of Invincible ignorant?


27 posted on 06/30/2011 7:44:49 PM PDT by WhoHuhWhat
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To: stfassisi; WhoHuhWhat; dadgum
He holds to Church teaching-that the Invincibly ignorant is not an enemy of the Church- The hard core protestant that believes the reformation was necessary is an enemy of Christ and His Church

Then he is wrong. The hard core Roman Catholics that believe "their" church is the ONE, ONLY, TRUE church of Christ ignore their OWN Scriptures that clearly describe that the church of Christ is a spiritual body made of ALL believers in Christ regardless of the nameplate over the house of worship's door.

The Reformation, as you MUST know, sought to steer the Roman Catholic Church BACK to the orthodoxy of the first century. Centuries of wealth, power, worldly recognition and secular deference made "her" full of greed, lust, debauchery, murder, theft and bribery. The church that laid such claim to exclusivity ruled with horrible tyranny and completely forgot where and why the church was instituted in the first place. It's "duty" was NOT to conquer sin but to win sinners to Christ. She forgot that once this happened the heart of the redeemed was reborn and was indwelt with the very Holy Spirit of God that even enabled true piety and holiness. The reformation succeeded in that at least some of the wrong being committed by the clergy was stemmed but where it needed to be changed the most, the Catholic Church refused the discipline of God and the men and women who dared to challenge the church to change, were instead anathematized and persecuted and some were murdered. A far cry from the True Church Christ created.

Sadly, most of the false teachings of Rome have not been corrected but thank God the TRUE CHURCH - that spiritual body of Christ - continues and more souls are still being won through the glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ who saves by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone for the glory of God alone!

35 posted on 06/30/2011 8:51:46 PM PDT by boatbums (my cat erased my tagline)
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