Posted on 06/30/2011 12:33:48 PM PDT by Colofornian
...The church's assets are thought to be worth more than $30 billion.
...The church reportedly receives more than $5 billion in tithes every year.
The church also has substantial real estate and for-profit business investments, managed by Deseret Management Corp. The company is one of the largest owners of farm and ranch land in the U.S. It owns the country's largest nut producer, AgReserves, Inc., the 14th largest radio chain, Bonneville International Corp...
Economic entrepreneurialism is...part of Mormon doctrine — 88 of...112 revelations received by... founder Joseph Smith deal with fiscal matters.
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The Twilight saga is actually about the Mormon belief in eternal marriage.
The Twilight series, by Mormon author Stephanie Meyers, is an allegory for the Mormon concept of "celestial marriage" - the belief that a couple that is "sealed" in a Mormon temple will stay bound together forever...
Edward and Bella's bond is sealed when Edward bites Bella. As with a Mormon marriage, there's no turning back for Bella, who is transformed into a vampire for eternity.
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The Mormon church thinks polygamy might be okay in the afterlife.
...(the official Mormon church)...still believes...the divine principle of plural marriage may apply in heaven. In the case of death or divorce, Mormon men can be sealed to another wife and all of their celestial marriages will be honored in eternity.
The LDS...tried to distance itself from...40,000 fundamentalist Mormons who still practice polygamy...
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Mormons wear special undergarments called a "temple garment"...designed to give "protection against temptation and evil."
Many Mormons believe the underwear provides spiritual protection.
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Mormons believe that when Jesus returns, he's coming to the U.S.
Mormons believe...all the...Christian churches fell into apostasy...
...Jesus will personally return to reign over a paradisaical Kingdom on earth. His headquarters will be at the...temple in Jackson County, Missouri...
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Let it go...deep breaths. It’s ok. Everything’s ok. Get some counseling for your hatred. Learn to love your neighbors.
Let what go? You keep falsely accusing me of hate.
Newsflash buddy, you don’t go to the ‘restored’ church because there ISN”T ONE.
And it does have bearing on my life because you are attacking me, and because as a CHRISTIAN I care whether or not you go to hell.
BTW, did you even bother to read what I wrote or did you just decide to keep attacking me.
Well, he's consistent isn't he SZ. Still waiting to hear how well that earning your salvation thing is going ben - still repenting?
Take it easy. Relax. You are going to fine as soon as you let go of the hatred you have for us. You just have got to get there.
You can’t deal with the insult. You are thin skinned. You were offended.
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Proof? No of course not, just more ad hominum attacks from a cult that can’t support their own teachings.
You need to stop the hatred and love your neighbor. You guys spend so much time worrying about something you have no control over. Seek therapy and let it go.
Of course he hasn’t, no one can keep ALL the LDS commandments, particularly since so many contradict themselves.
Godzilla, remember the brainwashing runs deep. Only God can open their eyes, like they did mine and SZ and Grey’s.
The LDS also forget that pride (which they so often show) is a sin as well. How many do you think have repented of that one?
LOLOL. You keep accusing me of hatred and now you are telling me to get counseling?
I do love my neighbors, which is EXACTLY why I am so vocal against Mormonism. Everything will be OK, when Mormonism is wiped off the face of the earth and sent back to Hell where it belongs.
So, are you gonna show me hatred or just keep attacking me without basis or apology?
BTW, you are in violation of Rel Forum rules but so far we have been nice enough not to report you.
And again, did you even read what I wrote? Or did you just ‘write it off’ as lies from an anti the way the LDS church tells its members to do?
The scales will start to fall off when a Mormon realizes that the antis aren’t lying, the LDS church is.
Again, waiting for ‘proof’ of hate. I suspect it is just like proof of the Book of Mormon - there isn’t any.
Notice that there isn’t any actual rebuttal to our comments or arguments, just ad hominum attacks - a sure sign they can’t carry the debate.
Again, accusations without any proof. Show me the hatred.
If I hated Mormons, I wouldn’t tell them the truth, I would just let them go on their merry little way to Hell.
Also a very good example of how the LDS assume anything said against ‘the Church’ (LDS) is ‘hatred’ of them.
They really don’t get it.
Well reaganaut - I guess that we can see from his responses how well he is obeying the commandments
Bearing false witness, multiple of times over. Guess what ben - Revelation 21:8 warns: “…all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
And now JAMES 2:10: “For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.”
Roll that stone back up the hill ben.
What a wonderful testimony from a mormon - one where he has to lie about another person in order to make his point.
LOL, where have I shown hatred ben. . (crickets). I am showing love to you - I'm warning you that the road you are traveling terminates at a cliff.
You need to seek the real Jesus Ben. Until then you will be blinded by your pride to the true condition of your soul.
Here are but a few of the blasphemies your founders of Mormonism have taught LDS members, quoted right in the LDS documents. See how many of these heresies you consider Mormon truth:
In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it. (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 5, 1844)I will go back to the beginning, before the world was, to show what kind of a being God is. What sort of a being was God in the beginning? Open your ears and hear, all ye ends of the earth; for I am going to prove it to you by the Bible, and to tell you the designs of God in relation to the human race, and why he interferes with the affairs of man. God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens. That is the great secret. (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 3, 1844)
"I learned a testimony concerning Abraham, and he reasoned concerning the Gods of heaven. '...Intelligences exist one above another, so that there is no end to them.' If Abraham reasoned thus--If Jesus Christ was the Son of God, and John discovered that God the Father of Jesus Christ had a Father, you may suppose that He had a Father also. ... Hence if Jesus had a Father, can we not believe that He had a Father also? I despise the idea of being scared to death at such a doctrine, for the Bible is full of it. I want you to pay particular attention to what I am saying. Jesus said that the Father wrought precisely in the same way as His Father had done before Him. As the Father had done before? He laid down His life, and took it up the same as His Father had done before. (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 373)
"Endowed with agency and subject to eternal laws, man began his progression and advancement in pre-existence, his ultimate goal being to attain a state of glory, honor, and exaltation like the Father of spirits. During his earth life he gains a mortal body, receives experience in earthly things, and prepares for a future eternity after the resurrection when he will continue to gain knowledge and intelligence. (D. & C. 130:18-19.) This gradually unfolding course of advancement and experience -- a course that began in a past eternity and will continue in ages future -- is frequently referred to as a course of eternal progression." (For the math challenged, there is no such thing as a different or past eternity separate from the eternity we are traveling now. This flimflam approach to fibbing is prevalent in Mormonism. If something began then it had a beginning, so it was either created or came to be ex nihilo.)
"Those who gain exaltation, having thus enjoyed the fullness of eternal progression, become like God." It should be realized that God is not progressing in knowledge, truth, virtue, wisdom, or any of the attributes of godliness. He has already gained these things in their fullness. But he is progressing in the sense that his creations increase, his dominions expand, his spirit offspring multiply, and more kingdoms are added to his domains. (Elder Bruce McConkie, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp. 5-10.) (So far the teaching from Mormon leadership has left choices: either everything has always existed without ever being created, or the god of Mormonism was on equal standing with each of us in some nebulous past eternity of pre-existence, or everything is created but distributed into separate eternities.)"We were begotten by our Father in Heaven; the person of our Father in Heaven was begotten on a previous heavenly world by His Father; and again, He was begotten by a still more ancient Father; and so on, from generation to generation, ... we wonder in our minds, how far back the genealogy extends, and how the first world was formed, and the first father was begotten" (Orson Pratt, The Seer, p.132).
"Some people are troubled over the statements of the Prophet Joseph Smith.... The matter that seems such a mystery is the statement that our Father in heaven at one time passed through a life and death and is an exalted man. This is one of the mysteries.... The Prophet taught that our Father had a Father and so on. Is not this a reasonable thought, especially when we remember that the promises are made to us that we may become like him?" (Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp.10, 12).
In the very beginning the Bible shows there is a plurality of Gods beyond the power of refutation. It is a great subject I am dwelling on. ... The heads of the Gods appointed ONE God for us... (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 372)
Son, if you haven't stopped reading because your demon possessed bosom is burning, that last assertion from your religious leadership IS BLASPHEMY. The God of the Bible did not have to earn the attributes of godhood, but your false christianity of mormonism teaches that heresy. Please, dig into the teaching of LDS inc and see the blasphemies before they consume your immortal soul.
Well said, and really par for the course. The LDS are afraid at looking at facts, instead they rely on their feelings. And if someone had a valid reason (like me) for leaving the LDS church, that might mean that their feelings are not as valid as they think.
We saw this with Romney a few weeks ago, where he supported global warming, he placed his ‘feelings’ over facts, something the LDS do every single day.
The facts are Mormonism could not possibly be true, yet they cling to their feelings in spite of the facts put before them. Really is sad.
“I will go back to the beginning, before the world was, to show what kind of a being God is. What sort of a being was God in the beginning? Open your ears and hear, all ye ends of the earth; for I am going to prove it to you by the Bible, and to tell you the designs of God in relation to the human race, and why he interferes with the affairs of man. God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens. That is the great secret. (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 3, 1844) [This is a great lie, too great a lie for even the liar Joseph Smith to have fabricated on his own! So whom is then the founder of Mormonism? HINT: it is not I AM.]
...Well, an awful lot of them have (Not that I'm about to leap into Mormonism).
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